kieran
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Post by kieran on May 15, 2016 14:33:06 GMT
Very interesting post with a very amusing Freudian slip by Ian Livingstone on Facebook: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156862931525316&id=632880315"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes."
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Post by offm on May 15, 2016 15:39:42 GMT
Seen the twitter post, i wonder if it is true or just to tease the fans of fighting fantasy.
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kieran
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Post by kieran on May 15, 2016 15:54:42 GMT
City of Thieves seems the obvious option for a sequel. 9 of his books (well ok, 8 of his books and one he took credit for) already form 3 loosely-connected series. Island of the Lizard King and Eye of the Dragon have no real scope for sequels. And Ian seemed to run out of interest with Freeway Fighter before even finishing that book so doubt he could be arsed doing a sequel. Don't think anyone bar Vagsancho wants a Crypt sequel and Blood of the Zombies is hardly what people think of as one of his old FFs. So I think if this happens, it'll be City of Thieves.
There were rumours of a City of Thieves sequel ages ago on the official forum, but it seemed Ian chose to write Eye of the Dragon instead and it was never mentioned again. Still it's possible Ian did have some ideas for a sequel back then that he's re-evaluating now.
Can't see this happening, but I'd quite like to see Legend of Zagor how Ian initially intended to do it before asking Keith Martin to take over. I reckon it would be very different from Martin's.
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Post by philsadler on May 15, 2016 16:30:44 GMT
Very interesting post with a very amusing Freudian slip by Ian Livingstone on Facebook: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156862931525316&id=632880315"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes." Well as for Ian's best Fighting Fantasy Boobs: I can honestly say that Blood of the Zombies had the nicest breasts.
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on May 16, 2016 2:40:16 GMT
"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes." Crypt of the Sorcerer. with no doubts! This book and no other needs a sequel.
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Post by deadshadowrunner on May 16, 2016 3:12:11 GMT
Very interesting post with a very amusing Freudian slip by Ian Livingstone on Facebook: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156862931525316&id=632880315"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes." Lol! This gives me an idea for some new FF parodies...better not to think about that too much. On a more serious note, City of Thieves is definitely the one that needs a sequel, as compared to the other candidates.
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on May 16, 2016 11:37:51 GMT
Lol! This gives me an idea for some new FF parodies...better not to think about that too much. On a more serious note, City of Thieves is definitely the one that needs a sequel, as compared to the other candidates. I understand the confusion. But City of Thieves is just a city, a marvellous city, but just a city. All the world screams for a sequel containing both Razaak and Nicodemus! No others. I can hear it from here.
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on May 16, 2016 11:42:37 GMT
I understand the confusion. But City of Thieves is just a city, a marvellous city, but just a city. All the world screams for a sequel containing both Razaak and Nicodemus! No others. I can hear it from here.
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Post by hynreck on May 16, 2016 12:37:15 GMT
Can you hear it from here??
For my part, City of Thieves would seem like an obvious candidate, but I wouldn't say no to Forest of Doom. Actually, he could make that a remake, cause the original was kind of... meh.
But Deathtrap Dungeon always was a favourite of mine, so even though that one got lots of attention already, I would be willing for another go at the dungeon, as long as it is closer to the first one, as much as possible.
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Post by Pete Byrdie on May 16, 2016 13:34:23 GMT
Since Forest of Doom, City of Thieves and Deathtrap Dungeon seem to be the only choices we're given, I'd have to go with City of Thieves. After all, the other two already have sequels, if Temple of Terror counts as FoD's sequel (as seems to be implied). I've little enthusiasm for another standard book-length dungeon crawl, and I doubt there's much more fun to be had wandering about in Darkwood Forest. I found Zanbar Bone a compelling enough antagonist, with the potential for an intriguing backstory that was little explored in CoT. And, let's face it, we never seem to tire of Port Blacksand.
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kieran
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Post by kieran on May 16, 2016 16:11:46 GMT
Can you hear it from here?? But Deathtrap Dungeon always was a favourite of mine, so even though that one got lots of attention already, I would be willing for another go at the dungeon, as long as it is closer to the first one, as much as possible. Yep I certainly wouldn't mind another delve into the dungeon
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Post by hynreck on May 16, 2016 16:22:17 GMT
If it's City of Thieves I hope there's another memorable unicorn tattoo somewhere in it...
Adventurer: Curses, I just did manage to take that damn thing off, and it cost me an arm and a leg too! *hobbles toward the next tattoo parlor*
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on May 16, 2016 18:58:28 GMT
A Deathtrap Dungeon III is always something fantastic and worthy of human yearning, a trip to the interior of Port Blacksand is something magical, but the supreme magic does not lie in the trials or in places, but in the souls, and that is why the most magical of all it would be the return of the supreme sorcerer with the supreme power that already wants nothing of this life - Razaak - the most powerful ultimate enemy.
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Post by philsadler on May 16, 2016 19:58:05 GMT
A Deathtrap Dungeon III is always something fantastic and worthy of human yearning, a trip to the interior of Port Blacksand is something magical, but the supreme magic does not lie in the trials or in places, but in the souls, and that is why the most magical of all it would be the return of the supreme sorcerer with the supreme power that already wants nothing of this life - Razaak - the most powerful ultimate enemy. Yeah and hopefully this time, the book won't be so shit.
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Post by hynreck on May 17, 2016 12:23:32 GMT
I'm thinking the new book, Crypt of the RAZAAK, should come stuffed with hidden razor blades to ensure victory of the RAZAAK, and allow him to feed on our blood to become real, once and for all. Ultimate destiny of the ultimate bad rotten guy... thing.
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Post by philsadler on May 17, 2016 12:39:23 GMT
He should be armed with a nuke and should kill you on the first reference. The other 399 should just go on about how 'bad' he is.
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Post by hynreck on May 17, 2016 13:55:50 GMT
And read something like: Cheater! Go back to section 1 and try again, stupid cheater! You're dead! So dead! Dead dead dead!! No-one can beat Almighty Razaak! Stupid cheater!
...because evil is petty.
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on May 17, 2016 17:37:55 GMT
Nicodemus has to return. A new business has to be rethought. The most amazing Wizard in the Titan world. That sorcerer lives! Some sure way he lives!
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Post by Pete Byrdie on May 17, 2016 21:05:39 GMT
Nicodemus has to return. A new business has to be rethought. The most amazing Wizard in the Titan world. That sorcerer lives! Some sure way he lives! How about the spirits of Razaak and Zanbar Bone resurrect each other and team up in a Port Blacksand procelebrity doubles bare-knuckle boxing tournament. And the player and Nicodemus have to defeat them. City of Thieves II - A Jab in the Ring.
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Post by vagsancho on May 17, 2016 21:59:14 GMT
How about the spirits of Razaak and Zanbar Bone resurrect each other and team up in a Port Blacksand procelebrity doubles bare-knuckle boxing tournament. And the player and Nicodemus have to defeat them. City of Thieves II - A Jab in the Ring. That can not be. Razaak is not a social man. A human being has no value to him. Don't you see that so clearly in his eyes?
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Post by Pete Byrdie on May 17, 2016 22:18:35 GMT
How about the spirits of Razaak and Zanbar Bone resurrect each other and team up in a Port Blacksand procelebrity doubles bare-knuckle boxing tournament. And the player and Nicodemus have to defeat them. City of Thieves II - A Jab in the Ring. That can not be. Razaak is not a social man. A human being has no value to him. Don't you see that so clearly in his eyes?I don't think Zanbar Bone could be classed as a human being. I mean, my granmother's 94 and the skin's stretched pretty thin across the old skull these days, but she looks a darn sight more human than Mr Bone.
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Post by hynreck on May 18, 2016 12:35:47 GMT
It is a strange world our Vag lives in where Zanbar Bone-type can be passed as human. I supposed nothing short of Nyarlathotep will faze someone of Vag's caliber.
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Post by offm on May 18, 2016 12:59:58 GMT
And read something like: Cheater! Go back to section 1 and try again, stupid cheater! You're dead! So dead! Dead dead dead!! No-one can beat Almighty Razaak! Stupid cheater! ...because evil is petty. dont you mean evil is pretty in a distorted kind of way... hmm i am begining to sound like Vagshancho here.....
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Post by hynreck on May 18, 2016 15:35:45 GMT
If you are into giant popping eyeball and fly perfume, than yes, Razaak is a very attractive fellow.
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Post by Jon on May 29, 2016 11:25:26 GMT
A Port Blacksand setting would be a lot better if handled by either Steve Jackson (remember Khare) or the lady who rewrote Khare for the fellows who then made it into a setting for the iphone game.
Livingstone really excelled with Deathtrap Dungeon and Trial of Champions too. Not Armies of Death though, that was rubbish.
Any new work from Livingstone ought to be set in a redesigned and even deadlier Deathtrap Dungeon. What labyrinth could be even more horrendous than the one in Trial of Champions?
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Post by vastariner on Jun 1, 2016 7:29:16 GMT
City of Thieves Sequel. You try to get together as many magical defences as you can so you can get revenge on Nicodemus' incompetence nearly leaving you dead and cursed.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Jun 9, 2016 1:41:57 GMT
Very interesting post with a very amusing Freudian slip by Ian Livingstone on Facebook: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156862931525316&id=632880315"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes." I imagine that everyone has already spotted that one of these books has the initials DD. Still, there it is. Very interesting post with a very amusing Freudian slip by Ian Livingstone on Facebook: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156862931525316&id=632880315"I asked on Twitter yesterday if, and it is a big if, I were to write a sequel to one of my early Fighting Fantasy Boobs, which one should it be? I got a great and encouraging response and now I wonder if my Facebook friends agree? Please let me know which one you'd vote for and I'll post the comparative votes." Lol! This gives me an idea for some new FF parodies...better not to think about that too much. The Warlock of Tassel-Topped Mountains, that's sort of thing? I'm inclined to agree with this, for the reasons others have given.
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Post by deadshadowrunner on Jun 9, 2016 10:38:20 GMT
Lol! This gives me an idea for some new FF parodies...better not to think about that too much. The Warlock of Tassel-Topped Mountains, that's sort of thing? Something like that
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Nov 13, 2016 5:09:07 GMT
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Post by lordomnibok on Nov 13, 2016 9:31:08 GMT
I don't seem to be able to get your link to work. I read a while ago that he wanted to collaborate with Steve J. for the 35th anniversary. Is this still the case? If he's still musing over a sequel I'd pick CoT over forest or deathtrap, but if I had any choice, I'd like to see Freeway. Actually, he should just start bringing out a new book every couple of years or so. He says he loves writing them, and we love reading them, so why not! Just please, not another BotZ, not too linear, and make sure it can be completed VIA THE RULES! Those would be my only requests.
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