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Post by thealmightymudworm on Jul 5, 2017 5:18:17 GMT
Some time ago – well nearly two years in fact – deadshadowrunner messaged me to suggest we could start a collaborative gamebook with as many people here chipping in as wanted to. His idea was to riff on Spectral Stalkers and have an item named the AleFF which would transport you to scenes in the books, or scenes following on from them. At the end of each scene you roll a die to determine where you go next. DSR gave some examples: DSR was suggesting this when the forum was going through a dead phase. Then he got busy at work and the forum became undead thanks to a note-dispensing ghoul. I haven't seen any trace of DSR for 8 months and I've no idea whether he'll ever be coming back, so there doesn't seem much point in delaying further. DSR was thinking about the adventure continuing more or less aimlessly, coming to an end when either the hero died or the reader ran out of numbers. This was to make it easier for new posters to add more scenes indefinitely, even if the people who'd started it had left the forum. I like the idea that it could be added to endlessly, but feel strongly that there have to be ways of winning. Either a single end like a final showdown but an ever expanding 'middle', or some scattered good ends across various books. I favour the latter – but this is getting ahead of things. How many of you like the idea, and would you be interested in writing a scene (or more than one) for such an adventure? It wouldn't necessarily need to be written up very quickly. If people could agree in principle now, post some ideas for what they could write over the next few-to-several weeks and then write them up (probably between 5 and 20 paragraphs each) whenever possible following that. Also, any thoughts on what would and wouldn't work for this? Obviously having independent scenes limits what you can do in them a bit. You can avoid insta-deaths and get food or even stats boosts like a magic sword, but if you want to write something in which is useful in another scene, you'll have to write that too (or arrange with someone else?). It might be worth the hassle though – for example perhaps if you pick up Tabasha the Bazouk from one world and then encounter Zanbar Bone in cat form (if you believe that's a thing) in another you could have them pulling chunks of fur out of each other.
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Post by kieran on Jul 5, 2017 11:46:42 GMT
Cool idea!
I think a good way to do it would be to have a central hub where you can choose which FF book to go into. Each FF book would be like a mini-scenario (say around 20-50 sections) where if the person is successful they will come away with some McGuffin (a black cube or some such). If you then get say 5 black cubes you can go on to the endgame.
This would mean for it to be fully playable all you'd need would be for people to write the endgame and at least 5 FF book scenarios. However it can expand indefinitely as more and more scenarios are added by different contributors meaning more and more ways to victory as more scenarios are written (messed up in Forest of Doom? Never mind, you might be able to get that 5th cube in Moonrunner). These new scenarios could take note of anything that could be done in the already existing scenarios - so to use your example if someone is writing the City of Thieves scenario and there is already a Chasms of Malice scenario where you can pick up Tabasha then that person could include a sequence where she helps you fight Zanbar Bone. Someone would probably have to compile a list of what can be picked up in each scenario so people can know what to include without having to know each scenario thoroughly.
And you could do multiple scenarios for each book. Maybe Armies of Death could have a scenario where you have to command a battalion and a different scenario where you have to sneak a laxative into Big Belly Man's food.
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Post by lordomnibok on Jul 5, 2017 12:18:25 GMT
This is interesting, not least because I was considering sending you a message about a writing collaboration idea myself. But I will stick to this theme for now… I like the concept of many good endings scattered throughout the work. Theses are my thoughts on it: - Each section could be a mini trial of sorts, with a victory or non fatal failure before a jump to the next location. An initial opening sequence to set up how the character came across the artifact would also be good. - A list would need to be created and constantly updated to show any special items that the character could obtain in any of the mini adventures, so that any writers would be aware of what the character might be carrying when they write their next scene (this would help to keep it consistent and avoid errors.) -A list of books and scenes that have been covered should be available to those who want to add to the work so as not to repeat scenes too often. I have a mini idea for a brief Deathtrap Dungeon leap already, though I’m not sure if I’ve got the time right now to do it. With some thought though, (and assuming that enough people would be interested) I believe this could be a fun idea. P.S. Just as I was about to post this I saw Kieran's ideas; very nice
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Jul 19, 2017 0:20:05 GMT
Hi, sorry to keep you both hanging, You've each focussed on a different possible set-up: building to a showdown vs scattered successes. It may well be that it's possible to do both. As Kieran says it would possible to start with the idea that there is some sort of big bad named eg Smarchmage Schmobus (except not that) to build towards, and I originally assumed DSR meant for the hero to pick up a few items to help defeat him. ("I say, this alchemical sphere reminds me of the shape of the AleFF…"). That could give a bit of a goal for us to aim at initially. On the other hand maybe if you hold onto the AleFF for long enough, or find somewhere where you can perform some magic to put him off, perhaps you are informed that the evil one has fallen in the battle for which he wanted the AleFF and you just have to find a safe place to live and hide the thing. Something like that. I'm not sure about the idea of a 'hub' if that means that you can start in any book/location and go through them in any order. That seems a bit contrary to the sense of the Tardis aleph taking you on a wandering route over which you have no control (but over which the object may be having an influence of its own.) It would also make it even harder to apply creative ideas about items being taken from one scene to the next. Are we all agreed that more than one writer can write scenes from each book? Personally, I don't think there needs to be any connection at all between two people doing that so long as they're not actually contradicting each other. One scene could have the player finally destroy Conrad in Moonrunner whilst another could have them chasing Lishek or doing something at the asylum without them overlapping at all. Indeed I'm not sure that it needs to be spelt out which book you're in – as long as there's enough info for people who know it to twig. Another question which has been touched on is whether we'd be writing these things more or less privately, whether most of the details are declared openly on this thread or whether they're mostly private but revealed to one person coordinating things (which would be me, unless and until DSR returns). The more I think about it, the more tricky choices there seem to be. I think it might be best if, rather than trying to work out all the structure and mechanics first, we start by proposing/collecting at least five or six ideas for scenes and seeing if that helps to make some of the decisions. The first thing which comes to mind for me is the possibility of doing a favour for the hero at the end of CoT and getting their 'worthless' black pearls in return. The black pearls would then be used in another scene, eg one from Demons. As to the question of getting others interested and finding time, I think the key would be to have frequent discussions/updates on this thread. Even if the updates are of slow progress, so long as the project clearly hasn't been abandoned things should keep moving. (I know I've taken umpteen days to reply for no very good reason, but there it is.) Interesting to hear you want to collaborate on something, Dave. I'm currently trying to force myself to polish up/off that Scorpion Swamp thing, having done pretty much all the writing but needing to clean up various things.
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Post by kieran on Jul 19, 2017 10:10:26 GMT
I'm not sure about the idea of a 'hub' if that means that you can start in any book/location and go through them in any order. That seems a bit contrary to the sense of the Tardis aleph taking you on a wandering route over which you have no control (but over which the object may be having an influence of its own.) It would also make it even harder to apply creative ideas about items being taken from one scene to the next. Fair enough. Don't see why not but I think for variety's sake we shouldn't allow too much doubling up, at least not at first. It would be a bit rubbish if we had 3 Moonrunner scenarios and no Forest of Doom for instance. Agreed. I reckon that last option would be best. The first option would be too messy, the second would mean those most likely to play the finished product would see a lot of spoilers.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Jul 20, 2017 17:37:52 GMT
Don't see why not but I think for variety's sake we shouldn't allow too much doubling up, at least not at first. It would be a bit rubbish if we had 3 Moonrunner scenarios and no Forest of Doom for instance. Yes, true. I don't know if there's an easy rule to set here but if we aim for a maximum of one or two double-ups in the first twenty scenes and certainly no tripling before then. (Frankly we'll be doing very well if we get to 20 and it'll be clearer how this works by then if we do.) In general, it would be good if people aim to cover a variety of locations and styles. Sooner or later someone will have to dip into the sci-fi. (Not sure how to handle special skills, extra stats and magic atm, but again this might become clearer as we get going.) Yes let's work on that basis for the time being at least. People can maybe put a very basic thumbnail in this thread and maybe PM me the details. _____ Btw, I should maybe have posted this before. This was the introduction that DSR suggested: Introduction No sooner had you returned to Neuburg than a very similar,though not the same winged creature fell from the sky.Although this time,it was not injured. "Hero,take the AleFF.A gift from above." The creature passes you the bundle ut was holding. "You mean the Aleph? Isn't it gone?" "No,not the Aleph.The AleFF.It only transports you to the myriad worlds of FF,not the Macrocosmos." "What FF?" You unfold the bundle to find a glowing sphere much like the Aleph.Inside you see dragons,daggers with monstrous handles and green-coloured spines. "You will soon find out..." The sphere seems to expand until it surrounds you,then shrinks to its former size. You are no longer in Neuberg. Roll one die,and turn to the section number it shows. I'm not sure how closely we need to stick to it – I think DSR would probably have been intending to write a cleaner version once we were clearer about how it was going to work. As it is I might re-write it. But it might give a sense of what he intended – also I'd like to include a bit of his writing if possible, even if he never returns, given that it was his idea.
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Post by lordomnibok on Jul 29, 2017 22:40:38 GMT
I was hoping to be able to put some thought into this but unfortunately life has just got very busy for me. For what it's worth though, I agree with everything in the previous post. The intro is very much a sketch but if you decide to rewrite it & infuse more of a story into it then I'm sure you'll do a good job Mudworm. If it gets off the ground I won't be able to contribute for an untold while but I still think it has a nice premise.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 2, 2017 4:16:46 GMT
I was hoping to be able to put some thought into this but unfortunately life has just got very busy for me. For what it's worth though, I agree with everything in the previous post. The intro is very much a sketch but if you decide to rewrite it & infuse more of a story into it then I'm sure you'll do a good job Mudworm. If it gets off the ground I won't be able to contribute for an untold while but I still think it has a nice premise. I don't think you really need to warn of delays in getting involved. At the moment there's not much to get involved with and nothing in the way of a timeframe set down. There's always going to be a fair bit of inertia to overcome with something like this and I suspect the first thing that's needed is at least half a dozen, preferably more, people expressing an interest in principle. (It's much more attractive to chip in a bit for something which is definitely going to be a thing rather than put effort in when it might be wasted.) So far there's just you, me and Kieran which isn't enough to get the ball rolling. I thought it might be easier to get a lot of posters involved as most of the regulars on here have tried their hand at writing FF at least once if not a dozen times. Perhaps I should have @-ed a few people – I may yet do that. Maybe I'll try writing a scene or a bit more intro first though. I'd been meaning to message you to ask what the collaboration you were thinking of would involve, but I'm guessing that's on ice too.
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Post by sylas on Aug 2, 2017 19:44:25 GMT
I don't have time to be involved (too many projects) but may I suggest you write a few short and simple sections to get things started. These sections are merely an example to give people a clearer idea of the style and format you're aiming for, and provide a bit of incentive for others to hop on board. It creates discussion as to what everyone thinks about it, and what works, what does not.
A paragraph will only form after the first line is written.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 7, 2017 19:14:37 GMT
I don't have time to be involved (too many projects) but may I suggest you write a few short and simple sections to get things started. These sections are merely an example to give people a clearer idea of the style and format you're aiming for, and provide a bit of incentive for others to hop on board. It creates discussion as to what everyone thinks about it, and what works, what does not. A paragraph will only form after the first line is written. Yeah I'm definitely going to do a little bit myself. I'm thinking that I will rewrite the introduction as I have a couple of ideas for that, but not sure what effect if any it will have on character of the rest of it. Also something towards the first scene. Good luck with whatever you're working on. If you want to get involved in this some time in the future you'll be very welcome.
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Post by sylas on Aug 8, 2017 22:48:31 GMT
I can give advice/suggestions but probably that's it.
Start off small with brief sections and let the ideas flow and spread. Have some kind of target you are working towards and don't worry about spelling and grammar.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 28, 2017 4:43:15 GMT
As you can see, I've posted a thread for the Aleff. I've completely re-written the introduction and have written an opening scene. You'll notice that it's, um, only four sections long but it's a start. None of this is really set in stone yet. One of the things I like most about this forum is that you can edit posts indefinitely, even the titles. (I'm tempted to drop the capitalisation of the F's from the name of the object, but still not sure.) I may add or change details in the introduction, and/or supplement the number of paragraphs in the opening scene. Hell, maybe it's not the opening scene, just one of two options or possibilities linked to from the start. Once we have a decent number of paragraphs it might be worth squiggling the numbers round, but I can't see that being worth doing before 2018. A note on the intro: I've left it ambiguous as to where you're starting from. I'm a bit tempted to make it Earth and have you thrown into an unfamiliar warrior role, Talisman of Death-style, but it may that Titan will be the way things go in the end. I do feel that the original idea of it being the character from Spectral Stalkers arriving home and then getting a 'here we go again' mission seems a bit clunking somehow.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Sept 3, 2017 1:22:09 GMT
(Replying to this here as I don't want too much discussion building up on the final thread.) You don't have to face him though, and it's not random that you do. If someone at the edge of their sanity is brandishing a sword at you, you have to think about what the most reassuring answer is or you're likely to be in trouble. Perhaps a SKILL of 11 seems harsh considering that the wrong option isn't really a blunder (compare Grimslade's demon), but if you've twigged who this character is it would hardly be realistic for him to have a SKILL of 7. Maybe Skill 10 instead as that's Champskees' recommended minimum Skill for the character in his solution?
You happy for people to dive in and start writing or would you rather we PM you first? Just thinking a free-for-all could get unwieldy quickly.
My first, gut reaction is I'm keen not to say anything which makes people more hesitant over starting to write, given how little momentum this has at the moment. That said... I think it depends mostly on what you or anyone else is committing this thing to. If it's mostly the risk of a fight with some provisions available then it doesn't matter so much. If it's providing info or help for a particular showdown or requiring special skills or anything it becomes more important. That's the sort of info I'd need in advance really. I'm thinking we might need a bit more open discussion on the general form/direction of this thing. As lordomnibok suggested there should probably be a general list of items that the character could hold, and I think any general themes could be added to that. I suppose I could hold all that back and wait for PMs before telling people, but it probably doesn't make sense to wait for people to have ideas and then put them off (or, worse, wait for them to write stuff and then edit it ). With that in mind, people intending to write bits for the adventure (whether or not they've had a look at what's there so far) should know that: In the intro, the character escapes from a giant, ghostly wolf by unwrapping the aleff and finding that one at a time pale-fronted birds with green marks on their backs appear from nowhere and one flies at their face, transporting them.
It's probably obvious that the birds represent individual FF books. Perhaps less obvious is the idea that the 'great beasts' the original carrier of the aleff warns of are supposed to represent other series. So it would be in keeping with the theme if, other than a single powerful wolf, the bearer has to flee a tiger or possibly a golden dragon. (I don't know any of these series well – maybe one of you would like to develop the references.) Whether someone is sending them (as in SS), whether something happens once you've encountered all of them or whether there's a possible win in confronting one in battle is all up for grabs atm – I'd be interested in people's thoughts on that. (Perhaps a battle would be an opportunity for more references to those series – idk.) For the moment there's no Alarm score – I'm not necessarily against introducing one but remember that this is supposed to keep the capacity to expand indefinitely.
I might introduce an element of choice in terms of slight differences in the birds representing different books. (But they will not just be stamped with numbers, I promise!)
After the scene starting at section 1, the adventurer could have: A maximum of 2 provisions A pouch of 6 black pearls A Ring of the Golden Eye to dispel illusions A Ring of Fire I'm not going to cut that enemy's SKILL level, btw, but I'll cut their STAMINA from 9 to 7 (effectively 4, as two hits or one with LUCK will end it).
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Jun 11, 2018 18:58:50 GMT
I'm writing another scene for this. It'll be a bit longer than the first one. This will be somewhat pointless if no one else commits to writing anything but I said I'd write one and I'm amusing myself.
So a renewed call: does anyone else want to throw their hat in to write a scene? If so, post in this thread just to declare an interest and then maybe PM me the details, eg staking a claim to writing a scene from Citadel or Deathtrap before someone else does. I still think this could come together if two or three people were committed (even if in quite a vague way) to doing bits at a time.
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Post by kieran on Jun 12, 2018 9:25:51 GMT
I must admit I had completely forgotten about this project but yes I'd be up for it. I'll give it a think then PM you the details.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 23, 2018 15:12:28 GMT
After an inevitable pause in writing my section, it's 80% or so done. Kieran is also writing a section of course which I imagine will be posted some weeks after mine. Is anyone else toying with the idea of writing a contribution for this? If so, would it be useful for your bit if the hero might (or might not) have any particular items or abilities? I was thinking about rewards that might be given to those who did well in my bit, but I don't have any fixed ideas and it's probably not a good idea to be constantly doling out random items so that the next contributor is left puzzling over how a spear coated with dragonsbane and some holy water are going to help aboard the Starship Enterp spaceship in Starship Traveller. Relentless stats bonuses probably aren't the way to go either. It would make most sense if the items made available were magic items, especially potions, or the ability to cast limited spells. Bear in mind the objects that the hero may already be carrying. As before, if you're interested in writing a bit post something general here and then PM me the details.
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Post by babbagefart on Aug 27, 2018 21:43:41 GMT
Hey guys, I'm new to this site (this is my first post actually) but would definitely be up for contributing something towards the project. Sounds like a great idea. I'll have a think about it over the next few days and PM you. How many references/paragraphs long should each contribution roughly contain? We talking maybe 5-10?
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 28, 2018 1:43:58 GMT
Hey guys, I'm new to this site (this is my first post actually) but would definitely be up for contributing something towards the project. Sounds like a great idea. I'll have a think about it over the next few days and PM you. How many references/paragraphs long should each contribution roughly contain? We talking maybe 5-10? Great stuff. This is finally starting to look like the ongoing, fun project that was originally intended. Welcome to the forum. At to the number of paras... 5-10 would be fine. I'd probably say that 5 should probably be the lower limit but that it should then be as long as it needs to be within reason. My first contribution as you can see was just 4 paragraphs but the current one will be ~20. Yes just PM me when you first have an idea what sort of thing you want to write.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Sept 23, 2018 15:10:50 GMT
Just to note that I've added a TRAIL score in retrospectively after all. I'll be popping up my section shortly (by the end of the month anyway) possibly alongside babbagefart 's (if he agrees...?) with kieran's to follow.
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Oct 27, 2018 18:28:38 GMT
OK, well I've edited my section into the Aleff thread. It's a forking path with only one prong at the moment, but I think it's worth playing as far as it goes. It's full of my usual nonsense so it won't be to everyone's taste. I reserve the right to edit it – hopefully it will become clearer what sort of items are needed for the later stages as they're added. I'm a bit baffled as to what's happened to babbagefart. He seems to have just vanished. I suspect this is at least partly my fault as I took a ridiculous amount of time to reply to his message to me, but that was several weeks ago. It seems odd to be enthusiastic to do something and come up with a draft, and then to give up and leave silently. Anyway I'll be discussing what to do next with kieran but if anyone else is thinking of dipping their toe in at some stage, please don't be shy.
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Post by stevendoig on Nov 9, 2018 22:18:45 GMT
OK I only found this thread yesterday. I have a nice idea. I'll have it ready in a few days hopefully. Where do you want it?
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Nov 10, 2018 14:57:18 GMT
OK I only found this thread yesterday. I have a nice idea. I'll have it ready in a few days hopefully. Where do you want it? Great! You can mention what book you're thinking of dipping into here and then PM me the details of your idea. Let me know if there's anything unclear about how we're doing this. (Probably best if we talk out any problems before you've written too much.) Ultimately you'll PM me the whole thing and I'll edit it into my post in the Aleff thread with a credit. Still not quite sure how to handle the numbering (and some other stuff) I'm looking to salvage babbage's bit atm, though haven't done much of it yet, so your bit will probably be after that and my first proper effort, and possibly in parallel to Kieran's, which he's getting finished in the next week or so.
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Post by stevendoig on Nov 10, 2018 16:19:04 GMT
ok. its a masks of mayhem one.
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Post by stevendoig on Nov 11, 2018 8:00:37 GMT
OK, its done. 15 references. Probably a lot of rubbish but feel free to edit/discard as you see fit. Where do you want it?
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Nov 11, 2018 14:55:10 GMT
Gosh, OK!
Send it to me by private message. If you haven't had a reason to do that before... <––––– Click my name over here on the left... then click 'Create Message' on the right –––––> copy/paste it in and hit Send.
When I reply to you, you'll see a number appear by Messages at the top of any page on this forum. (Some of that may be obvious.)
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Post by stevendoig on Nov 11, 2018 17:33:44 GMT
ok, sent! i have one further idea from 'citadel of chaos' . i will get this done soon. dont worry , i wont do any more than that (not for months anyway) i have a very short attention span and get sick of doing similar things very quickly! hopefully they are both of some use and will encourage others to contribute!
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Post by daredevil123 on Nov 11, 2018 18:19:16 GMT
I have been reading this thread and have had a crazy idea. How about one of the scenes takes place in the real world, albeit with a link to the FF books? Something like: You appear in room. A man sits at a computer, writing something. He introduces himself as Ian Livingstone and says he is writing his new gamebook "The Labyrinth of Linearity". You run him through with your sword and steal a signed copy of "Deathtrap Dungeon" from his bookshelf. Deadpool 2 spoiler: I got this idea from the scene in Deadpool 2 where Deadpool kills Ryan Reynolds. Gloriously meta.
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Post by stevendoig on Nov 11, 2018 19:01:21 GMT
not a bad idea!
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Nov 13, 2018 3:01:29 GMT
ok, sent! i have one further idea from 'citadel of chaos' . i will get this done soon. dont worry , i wont do any more than that (not for months anyway) i have a very short attention span and get sick of doing similar things very quickly! hopefully they are both of some use and will encourage others to contribute! Cheers! Yes please press ahead with the Citadel bit. I'll get round to working them into this thing sooner or later. I have been reading this thread and have had a crazy idea. How about one of the scenes takes place in the real world, albeit with a link to the FF books? Something like: You appear in room. A man sits at a computer, writing something. He introduces himself as Ian Livingstone and says he is writing his new gamebook "The Labyrinth of Linearity". You run him through with your sword and steal a signed copy of "Deathtrap Dungeon" from his bookshelf. Deadpool 2 spoiler: I got this idea from the scene in Deadpool 2 where Deadpool kills Ryan Reynolds. Gloriously meta. I think this could be a good idea, but have a couple of concerns... 1. I think the Aleff should only be a means of travelling through FF books. Presumably the hero wasn't in one before they started using it, but that's the only location outside FF that they might possibly be able to access (and that only once they've given up using it). That's not necessarily a fatal problem as a few of the books involve Earth, and if Earth exists then there's no reason to deny Ian Livingstone lives there. But I'd want an FF-book justification for bumping into him. 2. If he does make an appearance, I'd like it to be implied – however unsubtley – rather than just go full Deadpool and having him introduce himself and have named books lying around. So a bit like champskees 's April Fools Day walkthrough of the Island of the Undead which didn't mention vagsancho, his obsession with CotS, HoH and darkness, or his tangles with other forum members – and yet was all about that. So for example...
"...you push back the door, and see to your astonishment a man in the clutch of madness. He bears a striking resemblance to Obigee, the sailing bore your encountered when you had to [do thing which hasn't been written yet] but he simply slings bottle after bottle of red ink to smash against the wall while shouting 'DEAD, DEAD, ALL DEAD AHAHAHAHAHA.' You take advantage of his distracted state to snatch a book from behind him and are startled to see that the cover features a terrifying beast with a thousand eyes – truly the product of a disturbed mind."
...would be OK. I like 'The Labyrinth of Linearity' too.
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Post by daredevil123 on Nov 13, 2018 18:01:32 GMT
I think these suggestions are good - it hadn't occurred to me to link an appearance from Ian to one of his many cameos. I would be interested in writing for this project if submissions are still needed.
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