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Post by bloodbeasthandler on May 2, 2021 10:04:54 GMT
Over on the FF Official Page from 23 April there's an entry mentioning it being Shakespeare's birthday and then pointing out some names and influences of his that made it into Jonathan Green's books. Things from Hamlet are in Night of the Necromancer, and stuff from MacBeth in Knights of Doom and Spellbreaker. It finishes by saying "Are there any other Shakespearean references that you've noticed in your favourite gamebook series?"
One I can think of from the start are the three witches in Creature of Havoc soon after you get out of the dungeons. Another, more surprising one given that the article itself says that there were none in Stormslayer, is that Stormslayer has a ship called The Tempest and a character called Prospero...
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Post by a moderator on May 2, 2021 12:21:48 GMT
Talisman of Death, section 153: "Ha! A rat, dead for a silver."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4: "How now, a rat? Dead for a ducat, dead!"
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Post by vastariner on May 2, 2021 16:51:00 GMT
By the picking of my nose Something wicked that way goes
Spoilt only by, I think, it being in Bloodsword...
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Post by Wilf on May 2, 2021 19:46:50 GMT
Spotted Hamlet in Night Of The Necromancer, but not the others, and I recall no other Shakespearisms in FF. But Jonathan Green is clearly well-read (wasn't he a teacher?), as there's a reference to TS Eliot's The Waste Land in one of his books, too. Bloodbones, I think ("those are pearls that were his eyes").
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Post by tyrion on May 2, 2021 22:04:39 GMT
And I thought I was clever getting Father Jack from Craggy Island into my adventure....
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Post by daredevil123 on May 2, 2021 22:11:55 GMT
I think Night of the Necromancer also has a character called Falstaff.
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Post by sleepyscholar on May 6, 2021 4:45:12 GMT
And I thought I was clever getting Father Jack from Craggy Island into my adventure.... I think that is cleverer. I never managed to get any Father Ted into any of mine. Sticking in a bit of Shakespeare is the classic undergraduate trick for looking erudite. 'Hmm, I have to write an essay on the future tourist prospects of Brighton. How shall I open it? I know: "Once more unto the beach, dear friends, once more!"'
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Post by petch on May 7, 2021 12:19:27 GMT
I did very much enjoy reading recently about Mudworm's own adorable childhood concept here - to bee or not to bee.
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Post by Charles X. on Jul 27, 2021 21:55:16 GMT
Little bit tangential but I feel FF with its often dark and demonic themes possibly is as influenced by C. Marlowe's Doctor Faustus as anything Shakespeare wrote? Or the Stephen King style penny dreadfuls of the nineteenth century such as Varney The Vampire.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Jul 30, 2021 11:22:52 GMT
Little bit tangential but I feel FF with its often dark and demonic themes possibly is as influenced by C. Marlowe's Doctor Faustus as anything Shakespeare wrote? Or the Stephen King style penny dreadfuls of the nineteenth century such as Varney The Vampire. Well, in my case I can confirm that I did in fact go to see Busoni's opera Doktor Faust shortly after I started writing FF, and very scarily done it was (I still remember the hands reaching out of the floor, by means of an ingenious sort of rubber slatted arrangement). Not that I make a habit of going to the opera. The only other time I went was to see Parsifal at the ENO, and I sat in the cheap seats at the top, among the sort of riff-raff that annoyed the stuffed shirts in the stalls by laughing when the rubber goose (well, it was meant to be a swan) that Parsifal shot fell on to the stage. Not that I laughed myself, of course. Much.
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