A8) Beyond the Pit

[paltogue]

I see from Stuart Lloyd's tweets that Beyond the Pit has been put on Kickstarter. I don't know how I feel about this - I thought it was definitely going ahead as a regular publication. Still, the goal of £3000 doesn't look unlikely, especially as the minimum pledge is £22 and they are already at £1134. It looks like they need the money to pay royalties to the original FF artists.

[The Editor (Alex B)]

Nov 7, 2013 9:18:21 GMT paltogue said:

I see from Stuart Lloyd's tweets that Beyond the Pit has been put on Kickstarter. I don't know how I feel about this - I thought it was definitely going ahead as a regular publication. Still, the goal of £3000 doesn't look unlikely, especially as the minimum pledge is £22 and they are already at £1134. It looks like they need the money to pay royalties to the original FF artists.

Between this and Blacksand, I wonder if this will be how every future AFF publication will be funded.

[paltogue]

Nov 8, 2013 4:26:10 GMT The Editor (Alex B) said:

Between this and Blacksand, I wonder if this will be how every future AFF publication will be funded.

Was Blacksand a Kickstarter project too? I've not purchased it yet.

To be honest, Inkle and Tin Man aside, the whole of FF looks a bit shaky at the minute. And that includes the online community. There has been next to no activity on any of the forums (including this one) recently, and I'd have thought there might be some buzz about Sorcery! 2 at least. And it would be nice to see a bit more reaction to the Fantazine, which contains so much good stuff.

[The Editor (Alex B)]

Nov 8, 2013 19:09:29 GMT paltogue said:

Nov 8, 2013 4:26:10 GMT The Editor (Alex B) said:

Between this and Blacksand, I wonder if this will be how every future AFF publication will be funded.

Was Blacksand a Kickstarter project too? I've not purchased it yet.

To be honest, Inkle and Tin Man aside, the whole of FF looks a bit shaky at the minute. And that includes the online community. There has been next to no activity on any of the forums (including this one) recently, and I'd have thought there might be some buzz about Sorcery! 2 at least. And it would be nice to see a bit more reaction to the Fantazine, which contains so much good stuff.

Blacksand was on indiegogo (which amounts to the same thing). Yes, FF is about the solo books and I feel the community really needs those coming out to keep things upbeat.

[hynreck]

Nov 8, 2013 19:25:16 GMT The Editor (Alex B) said:

Nov 8, 2013 19:09:29 GMT paltogue said:

Was Blacksand a Kickstarter project too? I've not purchased it yet.

To be honest, Inkle and Tin Man aside, the whole of FF looks a bit shaky at the minute. And that includes the online community. There has been next to no activity on any of the forums (including this one) recently, and I'd have thought there might be some buzz about Sorcery! 2 at least. And it would be nice to see a bit more reaction to the Fantazine, which contains so much good stuff.

Blacksand was on indiegogo (which amounts to the same thing). Yes, FF is about the solo books and I feel the community really needs those coming out to keep things upbeat.

Yes, that's about right for the solo books. Since FF gamebooks seems to have, again, gone the way of the dodo (well, you know, there could be undead dodos), well, I'm getting my fix wherever I can find it, and right now it's coming more from Spark Furnace, and to some lesser degree, Mantikore and the occasional grab of used gamebooks.

I'm still reading the Fantazine, though. Pretty good stuff, but it was a wise move to adopt a more general approach towards gamebooks.

[Klea]

To be honest, Inkle and Tin Man aside, the whole of FF looks a bit shaky at the minute. And that includes the online community. There has been next to no activity on any of the forums (including this one) recently, and I'd have thought there might be some buzz about Sorcery! 2 at least. And it would be nice to see a bit more reaction to the Fantazine, which contains so much good stuff.

I got the impression that posts are still being moved and reconstructed from the old forum, and that we should wait before posting new stuff (wouldn't want to restart a conversation that basically already happened years ago).

What is Sorcery! 2?

I'm involved in NaNoWriMo this month, so haven't had a lot of time for most of my usual haunts (not that I've been here very long, but I'd like this to become one of my usual haunts).

[The Editor (Alex B)]

Nov 12, 2013 18:58:43 GMT Klea said:

What is Sorcery! 2?

inkle Studios iOS app adaptation of Kharé - Cityport of Traps that was released last week.

[Klea]

I take it that's something I'd need a new electronic gadget to play?

I'm currently starting a re-run through the Sorcery! series (one reason I'm avoiding parts of this forum - I don't want to see spoilers, even though I did complete all four books over 20 years ago), and doing it the old-fashioned way: Pen, dice, and graph paper.

[thealmightymudworm]

Nov 12, 2013 18:58:43 GMT Klea said:

To be honest, Inkle and Tin Man aside, the whole of FF looks a bit shaky at the minute. And that includes the online community. There has been next to no activity on any of the forums (including this one) recently, and I'd have thought there might be some buzz about Sorcery! 2 at least. And it would be nice to see a bit more reaction to the Fantazine, which contains so much good stuff.

I got the impression that posts are still being moved and reconstructed from the old forum, and that we should wait before posting new stuff (wouldn't want to restart a conversation that basically already happened years ago).

What is Sorcery! 2?

I'm involved in NaNoWriMo this month, so haven't had a lot of time for most of my usual haunts (not that I've been here very long, but I'd like this to become one of my usual haunts).

I can't speak for everyone else, but there isn't that much more I have to post from TUFFF apart from some more of the individual book threads. There may be a few bits and pieces, but it's worth risking overlap if it gets the forum moving.

If you want to start threads you should probably go for it, and don't hesitate to add to the resurrected ones.

[paltogue]

Nov 12, 2013 19:36:47 GMT Klea said:

I take it that's something I'd need a new electronic gadget to play?

I'm currently starting a re-run through the Sorcery! series (one reason I'm avoiding parts of this forum - I don't want to see spoilers, even though I did complete all four books over 20 years ago), and doing it the old-fashioned way: Pen, dice, and graph paper.

Yes, an iPod or iPad. I use an iPod Touch the screen is a little small, but good nonetheless; when they bring the games out in Android format I'll be able to play them on my wife's bigger tablet.

The games are quite different to the books, especially the second one (I managed to complete the first based on what I remembered from the book, but not the second so far). Two very different experiences actually, both excellent.

[Klea]

Well, that lets me out, then.

[hynreck]

Well, I've gone and pledged for Beyond the Pit. Let's see what will come out of that.

[paltogue]

The Beyond the Pit Kickstarter has more than reached its goal. Hurray! Looking forward to receiving my copy. This is a big thing for FF - really the first all-new major publication in years (I'm ignoring Blood of the Zombies here).

[hynreck]

Very good indeed.

[greyarea13]

I talk a bit about Beyond the Pit here:

fantasygamebook.blogspot.com/2014/03/beyond-pit.html

[hynreck]

I'm currently reading Beyond the Pit and liking it so far (50 so pages in)! Good job.

[sylas]

i've nearly finished re-reading Beyond the Pit and it is a blood good read. one thing i've always been curious about though. for the front cover, by the very talented Terry Oakes, what are those monsters identifiable as? i understand that many of them are represented differently to the B/W illustrations found elsewhere but this is what i can work out.

from top to bottom, going from left to right, i get:

1. Flying Fish
2. Wyvern (or Dragon?)
3. Giant Sandworm (similar to the one in TWoFM)
4. Fog Devil
5. Wolf
6. Hell Demon
7. Caarth Warrior
8. Minotaur
9. Arena Beast (or Tarator maybe?)
10. Fangtiger
11. Cockatrice (really not sure)

have i got most of those right? what does everyone else think?

[DungeonDevil]

Is there a TOC out there for this? Ideally I'd like a listing of the beasties and which tomes they come from.

[greyarea13]

Mar 17, 2014 0:19:12 GMT sylas said:

from top to bottom, going from left to right, i get:

1. Flying Fish
2. Wyvern (or Dragon?)
3. Giant Sandworm (similar to the one in TWoFM)
4. Fog Devil
5. Wolf
6. Hell Demon
7. Caarth Warrior
8. Minotaur
9. Arena Beast (or Tarator maybe?)
10. Fangtiger
11. Cockatrice (really not sure)

have i got most of those right? what does everyone else think?

I read somewhere (but I forget where) recently that Terry Oakes claimed he made all these monsters up, but it is curious that they resemble already-existing FF beasts. I agree with all your monster choices, except no. 9, which I think is a warped version of a Shapechanger.

[greyarea13]

Sept 14, 2015 22:11:09 GMT DungeonDevil said:

Is there a TOC out there for this? Ideally I'd like a listing of the beasties and which tomes they come from.

There was supposed to be one included in later printings of the book, but as far as I know it hasn't happened. I've attached a copy of one here for you to check out. Beyond the Pit Monster Sources.xlsx (50.91 KB)

[DungeonDevil]

Sept 15, 2015 3:17:09 GMT greyarea13 said:

Sept 14, 2015 22:11:09 GMT DungeonDevil said:

Is there a TOC out there for this? Ideally I'd like a listing of the beasties and which tomes they come from.

There was supposed to be one included in later printings of the book, but as far as I know it hasn't happened. I've attached a copy of one here for you to check out.

A thousand thanks!!

[DungeonDevil]

Just curious: is there such a similar list for Out of the Pit?

[DungeonDevil]

Dec 12, 2015 1:22:02 GMT DungeonDevil said:

Just curious: is there such a similar list for Out of the Pit?

*bump*
I'd really like to know this, otherwise I'll have to buckle down and start making an Excel spreadsheet with the data myself. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, though.