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Post by stevendoig on Oct 10, 2019 14:46:30 GMT
nice full page article in my favourite magazine this month!
was hoping to post a pic but not sure if 1 - that would be naughty 2 - how to do such a thing!
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Oct 10, 2019 15:20:46 GMT
nice full page article in my favourite magazine this month! was hoping to post a pic but not sure if 1 - that would be naughty 2 - how to do such a thing! Hi, As to question 2, you can upload pictures (if small to medium size/quality) directly to the forum using Add Attachment option. If you know where the pic is hosted somewhere else (eg because you've posted it on Facebook or somewhere), you can use the insert image option which gives more freedom on size. Ed or Alex will have to rule on question 1. I notice though that Fortean Times tends to retweet people who've posted pics with quite a lot of text from the current issue visible, (most recently here) suggesting they're not too aggressive about their copyright if they're getting publicity – ie there's a link to where to buy the whole thing.
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Post by jnicol on Oct 16, 2019 4:34:31 GMT
Thanks for the heads up stevendoig
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Post by The Editor (Alex B) on Nov 2, 2019 18:49:09 GMT
As long as the pic is only part of the article, not the whole thing we’d be okay (eg. 1 page out of 10)
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 17, 2022 0:41:27 GMT
I've decided to post in this thread partly in order to experience the new thread-necromancy warning which I guess means that it's been somewhat counterproductive for me.
I'm thinking that it's justified on the basis that something new – the Fortean Times' cover for September – reminded me that I couldn't remember reading the article previously in the Fortean Times and wondering whether it had ever been posted anywhere.
Anyway here's the new cover:
plus a die roll because that's new too.
wayVRZcU
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Post by stevendoig on Aug 17, 2022 5:36:43 GMT
I never did get round to posting the last article, maybe I'll get round to this one.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 17, 2022 9:42:03 GMT
Paradoxically my understanding it was a tiny, tiny number of people campaigning against Fighting Fantasy - the anti D & D campaign was partly based on a single incident with some idiot (c)nuts dressing up in D & D and killing, while Harry Potter is much bigger. People who are silly enough to campaign against Fighting Fantasy or say Tolkien are only going to encourage more readers.
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Post by philsadler on Aug 17, 2022 11:04:39 GMT
I'll assume, like 99% of everything, that it was either completely made up or laughably exaggerated.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 17, 2022 11:49:23 GMT
I'll assume, like 99% of everything, that it was either completely made up or laughably exaggerated. Or a determined and vocal minority (pre-Twitter!) screaming so loud it made people think something was bigger than it was. Having said that I do know someone of about my own age (and who was not a roleplayer), who does vaguely remember the D&D moral panic in the UK n the 1980s. His family were strongly associated with the Church, so I imagine that was where he heard it from - discussions within the family and local community about the game and its influence. How important an issue it was for them and how seriously they took the 'threat' the game posed, I don't know. I will ask him next time I see him and report back, if I remember!
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 17, 2022 17:07:40 GMT
I remember the Chick pamphlet, which got some attention back in the day. I also fielded the phone call from Liz Attenborough after the press made a big deal about Min's trident-through-the-chest Jamie-parody in (was it?) Talisman of Death. As we should all know by now, people getting het up about stuff gets attention. What seems to matter is the nature of that attention. What I told Liz Attenborough (and I'm sure Ian L wouldn't have objected to my answer) was 'Don't worry, it'll sell loads of extra copies'. On the other hand, more and more, now, we're seeing these kinds of extreme reactions being used to close stuff down (one example being Jerry Sadowitz at the Edinburgh festival). And the whole thing then gets weaponised and used as a political point scorer (often by people -- naming no Rickey Gervaises or Dave Chappelles by name -- who have a massive platform and who are in no danger of having their free speech removed, unlike a whole host of less famous/powerful people).
As the phone call incident I mention above shows, I used to be pretty relaxed about this. Nowadays, however, I think it's important to look at who has the power, and how and why they are wielding it. The world is full of dodgy religions trying to control people. Here in Japan, it took a heinous murder of a former PM for most people to discover that there has been a corrupt relationship between the ruling party and the Moonies (who also numbered Trump and others among their supporters) for years.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 17, 2022 21:39:13 GMT
I personally know a number of Christians who continue to campaign hard against D&D, on the basis it includes magic and is therefore pagan and un-christian. I have argued with them and said Tolkien was a Christian but they tend not to want to know. There is another issue about censorship - it seems to me a bit sinister when 'non-cult' Christians are campaigning not to let children enjoy RPGs and magic shows. Some people change their minds (not enough), for example I heard Mary Whitehouse was appalled when she read Tabloid reports saying Knightmare was too violent, but when she saw the show, even she said the deaths were tastefully done rather than gratuitously watching kids die as The Sun had falsely reported.
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Post by philsadler on Aug 17, 2022 21:50:28 GMT
Are you sure it's not just the anti-Christian agenda?
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 17, 2022 22:43:59 GMT
Are you sure it's not just the anti-Christian agenda? I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you're suggesting D&D is or appears to have an anti-Christian agenda, I do not agree, as I mentioned in my previous post Tolkien and C S Lewis were both devout Christians, D&D very briefly had some Demon characters which they changed in later editions possibly in response to criticism (I bought a D&D set in the late 80s and it didn't seem to have seriously Satanic elements). But then people will debate endlessly whether things have an anti-Christian agenda. I think many Christians embrace Harry Potter, which Rowling says is a battle between good and evil - I once went to a monastery where a monk there wrote a large book about Christian themes in Harry Potter (I forget the title, but the writer was clearly a supporter). Problems arise when one side thinks it's harmless fun while the other side thinks it has an anti-Christian agenda. I would say, as well, you can play a Paladin or Cleric in D&D, a Ranger or a Knight. As well as a Necromancer - but I would suggest it was just a few idiots taking D&D too seriously, not an entire agenda.
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Post by philsadler on Aug 17, 2022 22:47:38 GMT
No. I mean the anti-Christian agenda within Western society.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 18, 2022 19:05:03 GMT
I used to be pretty relaxed about this. Nowadays, however, I think it's important to look at who has the power, and how and why they are wielding it. [SNIP] the whole thing then gets weaponised and used as a political point scorer (often by people -- naming no Rickey Gervaises or Dave Chappelles by name -- who have a massive platform and who are in no danger of having their free speech removed, unlike a whole host of less famous/powerful people). I applaud them, to be honest. And I wonder how much of this perceived power being wielded on social media is mere illusion... and might be dispelled with the magic words 'Just piss off will you?!' followed by a strong shove. Or laughter, or even ridicule. I can snort at attempts to ban D&D and my beloved gamebooks now... but what if they'd won? Having said that, I am in no doubt the Red Guards of today would have Gervaise and Chapelle metaphorically up against a wall if they could. They just can't. Yet. In the meantime the smaller people get salami-sliced away and 'we' watch it happen. Mere association with a dissident or an appeal to hear the facts first before the passing of the sentence online will get you lumped in with the dissident. This is all part of creating an atmosphere of certain things being taboo and making examples of those who you can make examples of. The world is full of dodgy religions trying to control people. Swap the word 'religions' for 'religions and ideologies' (the latter filling the same place in the psyche that religions used to for a lot of people nowadays) and I'd say that's even more accurate. Here in Japan, it took a heinous murder of a former PM for most people to discover that there has been a corrupt relationship between the ruling party and the Moonies Yes, I spotted that. The fact that the Japanese establishment (and our press too, initially! which I thought was weird...) were being so coy about the motive of the killer only made me want to delve into this the more. I recall phrases like 'he had a grudge against a specific religious group' being repeated across the media like parrots for days afterwards. Anyhow, the moral panic was not always simply about religion. There were a number of cases of terribly troubled young men killing themselves in America. Parents, looking for a reason for the tragedy, found something to blame in these roleplaying games. I saw a documentary about this on Youtube a while ago. I might have a look and post the link if i find it.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 19, 2022 6:49:57 GMT
No. I mean the anti-Christian agenda within Western society. You mean the one advanced in service to the Great Reset by the Soros-financed Deep State and their pizza-eating paedophile libtard supporters?
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Aug 19, 2022 13:19:38 GMT
The necromancer stands before the unkempt grave, a sinister and arrogant smirk corrupting his sharp features. He raises his hands and intones terrifying words in an arcane tongue.
A cracking sound breaks the silence. A hand, with two fingers dangling broken and one missing, bursts through the soil. Then a face stripped of much of its skin and one eyeball rotting, with its jaw attached at one side only, rises inexorably...
Necromancer: Hahahahaha! The power of life and death is but a toy in my hands!!
Undead horror: RARRRRGH! Let the heated debate on issues pertaining to gender politics and the influence of a hypothetical deep state commeeeeence!
Necromancer: *Screams in blind terror and flees into the night*
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Post by The Editor (Alex B) on Aug 19, 2022 19:40:48 GMT
Undead horror: RARRRRGH! Let the heated debate on issues pertaining to gender politics and the influence of a hypothetical deep state commeeeeence! I don’t know, a Fortean thread seems the best place for such flights of fantasy re: deep states etc.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 20, 2022 8:06:08 GMT
Undead horror: RARRRRGH! Let the heated debate on issues pertaining to gender politics and the influence of a hypothetical deep state commeeeeence! I don’t know, a Fortean thread seems the best place for such flights of fantasy re: deep states etc. Which was my point exactly!
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 20, 2022 9:14:54 GMT
All, I will take this opportunity to recommend reading The Shadow Kingdom by Robert E Howard, if you haven't already.
Don't read a synopsis of it beforehand, don't look for opinions or analysis on it til after you have finished it. You need set aside only a little bit of time to focus on it - it's a short story and will not take long at all.
Written in 1929, the copyright has long expired. You can find it online for free, at places like Project Gutenberg.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 20, 2022 12:52:20 GMT
All, I will take this opportunity to recommend reading The Shadow Kingdom by Robert E Howard, if you haven't already. Don't read a synopsis of it beforehand, don't look for opinions or analysis on it til after you have finished it. You need set aside only a little bit of time to focus on it - it's a short story and will not take long at all. Written in 1929, the copyright has long expired. You can find it online for free, at places like Project Gutenberg. It's been a long time since I read any Robert E Howard, but I gave it a spin. Fun, and pertinent, as was obviously your intention. What struck me was the very obvious homoeroticism between Brule and Kull. I mean, no need for slash fanfiction here...
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Post by kieran on Aug 20, 2022 13:42:58 GMT
What struck me was the very obvious homoeroticism between Brule and Kull. I mean, no need for slash fanfiction here... There is a fair bit of speculation among fans that Kull was supposed to be gay. He's never outrightly stated to be, but it's repeatedly made clear he is not attracted to women and he is very close to Brule.
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Post by stevendoig on Aug 20, 2022 13:58:48 GMT
I canny find an add attachment thing using my mobile
Anyway, finally grabbed my issue. Haven't read it yet but its a big article- 8 pages. And if nothing else I reckon you should like some of the photos and pictures. -
1975 shot of Ian, Steve and John peake Picture of games workshop opening day Ian livingstone at 1982 games day
And a nice one of Ian holding his original manuscript of forest of doom with his flowchart in the back ground.
I always buy Fortean times, but reckon you should go out and grab a copy this time!
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Post by stevendoig on Aug 20, 2022 14:00:41 GMT
Just read a bit near the end - some spoilers about the two books! - Steve's sounds brilliant! (to be fair, so does Ians's)!
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Post by misomiso on Aug 21, 2022 11:10:51 GMT
is the article online anywhere? Not sure if the mag is digital or not. ty
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Post by hallucination on Aug 24, 2022 7:19:17 GMT
is the article online anywhere? Not sure if the mag is digital or not. ty It’s both. I couldn’t find the mag in a couple bookstores with large-ish (for Germany) international English-language magazine collections, so I tried tracking down a digital copy online. Fortean Times is part of the pocketmags catalogue, so I signed up for a one-month trial (which cost 1 euro). If you’re interested, that gets you access to a pretty extensive range beyond just fortean times, I’ve been flicking through a few other things too. Anyways, here’s the link I found pocketmags.com/eu/fortean-times-magazine
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Post by hallucination on Aug 24, 2022 7:23:10 GMT
Just read a bit near the end - some spoilers about the two books! - Steve's sounds brilliant! (to be fair, so does Ians's)! Absolutely!
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Post by misomiso on Aug 24, 2022 7:49:27 GMT
What were the spoilers....?
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Post by philsadler on Aug 24, 2022 8:22:00 GMT
Zinio also does digital mags.
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