Choose your least favourite FF 61-70+

[CharlesX]

Like others, vote for your least favourite 5 voting finishes March 24th 10 p.m.

[hallucination]

Folks: thoughts on omitting the three mini versions from the poll?
Warlock adventures (these versions and other adventures) could be polled separately?

[CharlesX]

My logic - aside from just including them because King Gillibran did - is it might be interesting to see whether Eye Of The Dragon mini recieves the same venom the main one does, and if we're including that, we might as well include other minis (I'm not a fan of Caverns Of The Snow Witch in any format, although I didn't vote it down because I haven't read it and voted against the main one). Unlike King Gillibran I'm suggesting you should not vote for things you haven't played.

   So, like I say I think two of those three minis are worth interest and as gamebooks I figure they are as worthy as others. That's the case against.

   I have read none of the Warlock magazine FF adventures and have no interest in polling their likes or dislikes so anyone else feel free to pick up that torch.

[a moderator]

The Eye of the Dragon mini is not FF. It uses the Fantasy Quest system, a hybrid of rules from FF and D&D which manages to combine most of the worst aspects of both systems.

You'd be better off replacing it with The Dark Usurper, which did use FF rules and was serialised in 3 issues of White Dwarf magazine.

[CharlesX]

Well, it's only three minis and it's definitely too late to change the poll merely to toss out Eye Of The Dragon as I would keep Caverns Of The Snow Witch and House Of Hell for the reasons I've presented. As it seems there it some demand for a separate poll with hallucination suggesting one and greenspine sympathising I say we can include those three as a separate poll after this round is resolved (I would not do a poll ranking which included Trolltooth Wars, Casket Of Souls\Tasks Of Tantalon, Fighting Fantasy\Riddling Reaver, Goldhawk and Titan and definitely not one about whether we dislike them).

[tyrion]

I've not read any of the mini adventures, therefore they can't be my least favourite.

[sylas]

How do I vote for Gates of Death 5 times?

[King Gillibran]

Mar 15, 2023 2:29:24 GMT sylas said:

How do I vote for Gates of Death 5 times?

If I could I would!

[soulreaver]

I haven't read all of them (eg, the mini adventures), but I think I know enough about them to make a fairly educated judgement that they're not the worst things on this list. There are some real no-brainers here.

Crystal of Storms is in some ways actually quite ok, but I don't like how fanfiction-y it seems (shoehorning Steampunk goblins and sentient clouds into Titan), and structurally it has some significant problems that really irk me personally.

Meanwhile Clash of the Princes is quite a cool idea but sunk by its execution, because the writing is frankly boring and the adventure is too tough for a two-player adventure (in all likelihood one of the heroes will swiftly die at one of the many instant-death paragraphs, leaving them with nothing to do and meaning the gimmick doesn't really get much use).

I wish I had 6 votes rather than 5...

[CharlesX]

Mar 21, 2023 1:39:24 GMT soulreaver said:

I haven't read all of them (eg, the mini adventures), but I think I know enough about them to make a fairly educated judgement that they're not the worst things on this list. There are some real no-brainers here.

Crystal of Storms is in some ways actually quite ok, but I don't like how fanfiction-y it seems (shoehorning Steampunk goblins and sentient clouds into Titan), and structurally it has some significant problems that really irk me personally.

Meanwhile Clash of the Princes is quite a cool idea but sunk by its execution, because the writing is frankly boring and the adventure is too tough for a two-player adventure (in all likelihood one of the heroes will swiftly die at one of the many instant-death paragraphs, leaving them with nothing to do and meaning the gimmick doesn't really get much use).

I wish I had 6 votes rather than 5...

That's very well-put. Unfortunately 'no-brainer' and 'wishing you could vote for more than 5' rather sums up some of these gamebooks (which is why you wrote those things), which does leave latter rounds inevitable and anticlimactic.
   In case anyone's wondering, the proposed format after this will be:

Continuing voting without seeing the results, with one week and one weekend except for the final which will be roughly two weeks.
A one-off mini vote between House Of Hell and Caverns of The Snow Witch, which I suggest only those who have played both participate in. I don't think enough people will have read Greenspine's suggestion of Dark Usurper.
An unspecified number who get many votes will go 'straight through' to the later rounds. As you and others say here to do otherwise would be unfair on people who would want to vote for the likes of Gates Of Death for the next four rounds. The end poll ranking will be based primarily on their position ranking not their number of votes. 

[CharlesX]

Mar 14, 2023 16:35:22 GMT hallucination said:

Folks: thoughts on omitting the three mini versions from the poll?
Warlock adventures (these versions and other adventures) could be polled separately?

If no one has any objections the mini poll will:

Definitely include The House Of Hell and Caverns Of The Snow Witch (on basis they are versions of the very well-known FF series).

Not include Eye Of The Dragon (on basis the rules differ too much from current FF, besides, I imagine EOTD gamebook will be given a kicking when results are revealed tonight).

Include Rogue Mage (on basis it appears in FF form in the FF yearbook).

Include Dark Usurper (on basis of Greenspine's suggestion).

With a round four gamebooks, you will vote on two, two will be knocked out and there will be a final poll to determine the worst. I would advise against voting down any gamebook [mini] you have not read but equally advise against voting down only gamebooks you have read unless you dislike gamebook at issue.