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Post by misomiso on Mar 28, 2024 19:20:59 GMT
The Dungeon on Blood Island
From Sir Ian...
On the eve of the 40th anniversary of Deathtrap Dungeon, I'm delighted to announce I've written a sequel which will be published in September by Scholastic UK. The Dungeon on Blood Island will have a cover by the amazing Iain McCaig who painted the original Deathtrap Dungeon cover, internal illustrations by Krisztián Balla, and a new map by Leo Hartas. Looking forward to luring you to your doom! Where's Throm when you need him? 😂
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Post by mooncat on Mar 28, 2024 23:11:43 GMT
Interesting if it's not in Fang anymore. Blood Island is where Carnuss trained the slaves to enter the dungeon, right? I wonder why the dungeon has moved there now.
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Post by paperexplorer on Mar 29, 2024 6:50:28 GMT
From Fightingfantasy.com:
Jealous of the fame and fortune that Baron Sukumvit’s Deathtrap Dungeon had brought him, his brother Lord Carnuss and an army of slaves spend five years building the ultimate dungeon on Blood Island. Offering a prize of the Golden Orb of Fang, he challenges all-comers to risk their lives to find this priceless treasure and escape with it alive. Filled with deadly creatures, lethal traps, fierce competitors, and danger lurking at every turn, are YOU brave enough to enter The Dungeon on Blood Island?
So Carnuss is back.... I killed that guy!
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Post by King Gillibran on Mar 30, 2024 7:20:55 GMT
I am so excited. I was beginning to think we wouldnt get one. This is amazing!!! Best of all, Iain Mcaig returns!
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Post by mooncat on Apr 3, 2024 23:10:20 GMT
From Fightingfantasy.com: Jealous of the fame and fortune that Baron Sukumvit’s Deathtrap Dungeon had brought him, his brother Lord Carnuss and an army of slaves spend five years building the ultimate dungeon on Blood Island. Offering a prize of the Golden Orb of Fang, he challenges all-comers to risk their lives to find this priceless treasure and escape with it alive. Filled with deadly creatures, lethal traps, fierce competitors, and danger lurking at every turn, are YOU brave enough to enter The Dungeon on Blood Island? So Carnuss is back.... I killed that guy! Funnily enough first thing I'd thought was maybe it's Carnuss building a rival dungeon, but then was also pretty certain he was dead (I haven't read Trial of Champions for like 20 years)! Ah well, however he comes back, I'm excited to read it! For someone in the early days of getting back into the books, it'll be nice to read a book that's both new, and also distilled to the purest essence of FF with a nice dungeon crawl! Edit: actually around 30 years. I keep forgetting just how long ago it is now... |
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Post by evilwizard on Apr 18, 2024 19:08:06 GMT
Assuming this takes place before Deathtrap Dungeon and Trial of Champions and is not Ian forgetting his own lore again
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Post by CharlesX on Apr 18, 2024 19:33:01 GMT
From Fightingfantasy.com: Jealous of the fame and fortune that Baron Sukumvit’s Deathtrap Dungeon had brought him, his brother Lord Carnuss and an army of slaves spend five years building the ultimate dungeon on Blood Island. Offering a prize of the Golden Orb of Fang, he challenges all-comers to risk their lives to find this priceless treasure and escape with it alive. Filled with deadly creatures, lethal traps, fierce competitors, and danger lurking at every turn, are YOU brave enough to enter The Dungeon on Blood Island? So Carnuss is back.... I killed that guy! Perhaps you haven't seen enough TV  any event like that must have been a long dream, alternate reality, LSD trip, seemingly fatal injuries he can recover from in a month with barely a stitch, body double, something a powerful magician or necromancer can fix etc. So either Sir Ian is setting it before Trial Of Champions, or you can assume he's doing some BS like that. I personally don't really appreciate another Throm reference, I hope Sir Ian won't be shoehorning him in like he does with Lord Azzur (e.g. Throm's brother, too).
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Apr 18, 2024 19:33:51 GMT
How long had Deathtrap Dungeon been going on for before it was beaten?
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Post by hallucination on Apr 18, 2024 20:28:34 GMT
If this new adventure is set before DD, I suppose that means victory for any contestant in The Walk is totally doomed from the get go
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Post by kieran on Apr 19, 2024 8:27:22 GMT
If this new adventure is set before DD, I suppose that means victory for any contestant in The Walk is totally doomed from the get go But then if this is Carnuss' off-brand Lidl version of The Walk, maybe it was beaten before the official version. |
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Post by hallucination on Apr 19, 2024 11:56:45 GMT
Ah, right! I suppose so!
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Post by CharlesX on Apr 19, 2024 17:27:34 GMT
If this new adventure is set before DD, I suppose that means victory for any contestant in The Walk is totally doomed from the get go But then if this is Carnuss' off-brand Lidl version of The Walk, maybe it was beaten before the official version. That would also be another reason Lord Carnuss were very jealous of his brother, having built his own Deathtrap Dungeon\The Walk later (will it have a name, or will it be like the many unnamed bad guys in Eye Of The Dragon) only to have an adventurer win through earlier, as well. |
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Post by CharlesX on Apr 20, 2024 15:20:19 GMT
If this new adventure is set before DD, I suppose that means victory for any contestant in The Walk is totally doomed from the get go They say you acquire characteristics of things you see and hear. Having seen some political propaganda I'm wondering whether you're only told no one has beaten the dungeon, Dungeon Masters are told no one in living memory has acquired all three gems before, that while that is recorded and believed adventurers truthfully have done so. Baron Sukumvit tells you to go the wrong way and would rather you call him a worm than Hail him so that wouldn't be without enough evidence, either. |
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Post by pip on Apr 20, 2024 20:49:17 GMT
I checked the ending of Trial of Champions again to make sure, and while it's implied that you kill Carnuss at the end (just because that's typically what happens when you win a fight), there is no description of his death whatsoever, so you could consider that he was maybe defeated but not killed. He possibly yielded, declared you to be the champion, and you were satisfied with that and spared him. I'm aware it's a stretch, and surely not how any of us thought of it at the time, but if the new story is a direct sequel and if he's still alive, it at least doesn't directly contradict anything that was written beforehand. At least that is how I'll think of it.
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Post by kieran on Apr 20, 2024 22:36:19 GMT
He possibly yielded, declared you to be the champion, and you were satisfied with that and spared him. My only problem with that is that the reason you challenge him is to avenge those who died at the arena and it doesn't seem like letting Carnuss scarper back to Blood Island really addresses that. |
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Post by hallucination on Apr 21, 2024 8:30:31 GMT
He could’ve been in league with one of Allansia‘s many dastardly necromancers
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any event like that must have been a long dream, alternate reality, LSD trip, seemingly fatal injuries he can recover from in a month with barely a stitch, body double, something a powerful magician or necromancer can fix etc.
