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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 18, 2019 21:15:53 GMT
Ok, probably get this one quite quickly but anyway:
Who am I?
Foes now friends and friends forgotten, Evil whispers in my ears. Child I have though not begotten. Am veteran of bygone years.
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Post by Wilf on Aug 18, 2019 21:30:57 GMT
Baron Tholdur?
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 18, 2019 21:41:03 GMT
Yeah, didn't take you long.
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Post by Wilf on Aug 18, 2019 22:07:08 GMT
Yeah, didn't take you long. Reckon this one won't cause too much trouble, either.
Same rules as before:
31756 gives a warrior. 647148 gives a wizard. 941425 gives a king.
So who is 123456789?
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Aug 18, 2019 23:01:55 GMT
Luke Sharp?
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Post by Wilf on Aug 18, 2019 23:58:37 GMT
Yep. KLASH the Chaos Warrior (from The Port Of Peril); The HEALER (from Caverns Of The Snow Witch); and King PELEUS (from Clash Of The Princes: The Warlock's Way).
Over to you...
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Post by sylas on Aug 19, 2019 16:23:49 GMT
Continuing the minicodes. This is my first so probably too easy. Answer is 9 letters again.
5732 gives a potion 6451 gives an elf 82529 gives a demon
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Post by a moderator on Aug 19, 2019 17:57:59 GMT
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Aug 19, 2019 18:01:07 GMT
Correct. Your turn.
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Post by a moderator on Aug 19, 2019 21:52:38 GMT
I'll have a go at a minicode, then. 9 letters.
72149 is an enemy leader. 74896 is a pet. A Trialmaster uses 5236.
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Post by kieran on Aug 19, 2019 22:01:34 GMT
I'll have a go at a minicode, then. 9 letters. 72149 is an enemy leader. 74896 is a pet. A Trialmaster uses 5236. Nicodemus?
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Post by a moderator on Aug 19, 2019 22:02:19 GMT
Correct.
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Post by kieran on Aug 19, 2019 22:20:34 GMT
Since I can't think of any 9 letter FF words offhand, let's see how things are going with Sid.
You follow a winding tunnel which eventually emerges into a circular room of red brick. Five doors lead onwards, all with markings upon them.
The first is marked "6 +e" The second is marked "14 -v" The third is marked "7 -d" The fourth is marked "8 -e" The fifth is marked "18 +n"
Carved above the doors is an inscription: "Enter the home of the assassin"
Which door should you open and why?
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Post by sylas on Aug 25, 2019 0:11:38 GMT
Time for some clues.
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Post by kieran on Aug 25, 2019 6:55:55 GMT
Ok, here are a few clues. Clue 4 is a biggy. Clue 1: The numbers have nothing to do with the numbers of FF books Clue 2: In fact the numbers are almost random, except 4 of them have something in common which another does not Clue 3: Think of a place where an assassin in the series comes from. This may be significantly bigger than a town or city. Clue 4: 4 of the numbers can be described by the same word. A different word can be used for the other number. Take these words and apply the addition or subtraction of letters written on the doors.
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Post by Wilf on Aug 25, 2019 10:18:25 GMT
I think I cracked what you're doing here with Clue 2.
But I am still none the wiser, even with the help of Titannica.
I think I'm missing a vital piece of knowledge relating to Clue 3...
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Post by schlendrian on Aug 25, 2019 12:43:50 GMT
So do I, and based on clue 3 I'm very sure that the "home of the assassin" is supposed to be but I've no idea how to get to that answer.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 25, 2019 13:12:31 GMT
I think I've got it and would go for door 3...
The numbers are either ODD or EVEN...
The first is marked "6 +e" EVEN + letter E - EVENE ? no. The second is marked "14 -v" EVEN minus letter E... No.... The third is marked "7 -d" ODD minus letter D - Od - aha! The fourth is marked "8 -e" EVEN minus letter E, so we get the word VEN or EVN? no. The fifth is marked "18 +n" EVEN plus letter N so this is NEVEN or some such word? No, not the answer. So looking at the third door the answer is the word Od, and we read at the start of FF12 Space Assassin: For some time Cyrus, the tyrannical ruling scientist of Od, (your local sector)….
But if this is right, I have no replacement riddle immediately to hand at the moment, sorry! (Will work on one)
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Post by kieran on Aug 25, 2019 15:59:57 GMT
I think I've got it and would go for door 3...
The numbers are either ODD or EVEN...
The first is marked "6 +e" EVEN + letter E - EVENE ? no. The second is marked "14 -v" EVEN minus letter E... No.... The third is marked "7 -d" ODD minus letter D - Od - aha! The fourth is marked "8 -e" EVEN minus letter E, so we get the word VEN or EVE? no. The fifth is marked "18 +n" EVEN plus letter N so this is NEVEN or some such word? No, not the answer. So looking at the third door the answer is the word Od, and we read at the start of FF12 Space Assassin: For some time Cyrus, the tyrannical ruling scientist of Od, (your local sector)….
But if this is right, I have no replacement riddle immediately to hand at the moment, sorry! (Will work on one)
Correct!
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Post by sylas on Aug 25, 2019 16:02:38 GMT
I think I've got it and would go for door 3...
The numbers are either ODD or EVEN...
The first is marked "6 +e" EVEN + letter E - EVENE ? no. The second is marked "14 -v" EVEN minus letter E... No.... The third is marked "7 -d" ODD minus letter D - Od - aha! The fourth is marked "8 -e" EVEN minus letter E, so we get the word VEN or EVE? no. The fifth is marked "18 +n" EVEN plus letter N so this is NEVEN or some such word? No, not the answer. So looking at the third door the answer is the word Od, and we read at the start of FF12 Space Assassin: For some time Cyrus, the tyrannical ruling scientist of Od, (your local sector)….
But if this is right, I have no replacement riddle immediately to hand at the moment, sorry! (Will work on one)
I think you've got the right answer even though it makes absolutely zero sense to me.
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Post by Wilf on Aug 25, 2019 16:28:54 GMT
You are the (space) assassin and you're from a sector of space called Od.
I did look up Od on Titannica, thinking it had to be the answer, but that website drew a blank, and I hadn't remembered the details of FF12 all that thoroughly.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 25, 2019 17:20:00 GMT
I think I've got it and would go for door 3...
The numbers are either ODD or EVEN...
The first is marked "6 +e" EVEN + letter E - EVENE ? no. The second is marked "14 -v" EVEN minus letter E... No.... The third is marked "7 -d" ODD minus letter D - Od - aha! The fourth is marked "8 -e" EVEN minus letter E, so we get the word VEN or EVE? no. The fifth is marked "18 +n" EVEN plus letter N so this is NEVEN or some such word? No, not the answer. So looking at the third door the answer is the word Od, and we read at the start of FF12 Space Assassin: For some time Cyrus, the tyrannical ruling scientist of Od, (your local sector)….
But if this is right, I have no replacement riddle immediately to hand at the moment, sorry! (Will work on one)
I think you've got the right answer even though it makes absolutely zero sense to me. I don't blame you, my explanation's a bit poorly written and confusing.
The first is marked "6 +e". Take the word EVEN and add an E. Does it spell out anything to do with where an assassin comes from? The second is marked "14 -v" Take the word EVEN and take away the V. Does it spell out anything to do with where an assassin comes from? The third is marked "7 -d" Take the word ODD and take away a D. Does it spell out anything to do with where an assassin comes from? The fourth is marked "8 -e" Take the word EVEN and take away an E. Does it spell out anything to do with where an assassin comes from? The fifth is marked "18 +n" Take the word EVEN and add an N. Does it spell out anything to do with where an assassin comes from?
7-d leaves us with Od. The name of the sector in Space Assassin. Make sense?
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Post by sylas on Aug 25, 2019 18:18:18 GMT
Makes sense now but without the clues I can't see how we were meant to work it out.
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Post by kieran on Aug 25, 2019 20:43:16 GMT
Makes sense now but without the clues I can't see how we were meant to work it out. Yeah it was a bit obscure now I look at it again. Mea culpa.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 26, 2019 20:48:59 GMT
Makes sense now but without the clues I can't see how we were meant to work it out. Yeah it was a bit obscure now I look at it again. Mea culpa.
Don't be too hard on yourself. I think it was difficult because it did not follow a familiar pattern. With puzzles in general if the solver spots that a puzzle is going to be a straightforward substitution code, a cryptic crossword style puzzle or, say, is going to be solved by a simultaneous equation, the solver has immediate frames of reference. With the latter it's a case of working out what you are going to make x and y and how to hammer the words into those equations. When there is no frame of reference, a great deal of original or lateral thinking is needed, and that makes it hard (obscure).
You gave us a few clues - the word E V E N was in there [in the letters to be added or subtracted] and the odd number out led to the answer of Od, plus you told us that the answer had something to do with an assassin's home. I did consider the answer being Od but was unable to work back from there. A couple of further clues from you and I was there.
Ok I've thought up a puzzle of sorts, hope it makes sense and entertains...
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 26, 2019 20:51:27 GMT
Gordo’s the name, and thieving’s the game. Or rather ‘the redistribution of wealth according to the principle of supply and demand’. I demand and the rich supply. Anyway, enough political discourse, I’m going to tell you about a rather interesting thing that happened to me the other day. One fine Seaday morning I’m strolling along towards one of the rather more upmarket parts of the city (which is not saying much) when I catch sight of a big bird, some sort of hawk or crow up in the sky. There’s a smell of fumes (worse than normal in this particular locality) and then the most tremendous explosion coming from a building to my left. There’s flames and smoke billowing into the sky and it must have startled the bird worse than it did me, because it drops what it was carrying – namely a small gold-coloured box – which falls to the floor in front of me. (I later found out it contained a message from one of Allansia’s biggest ornithologists of one of Allansia’s grumpiest wizards, but that’s another story).
Possession being nine-tenths of the law, I dart forward and scoop it up and put it in my pocket quick as a flash and glance around to see if anyone else noticed. But Sindla’s not with me – three of those low-lives from the Red Star Brotherhood saw what I’ve just acquired and they’ve got the same ideas as me about possessing things and they’re not the sort of people to be swayed by the other principle I adhere to called ‘Finders keepers’.
So I take to my heels and they chase after me. They’re not getting that box. Onwards I go, I make a sharp turn, the sun’s in my eyes, and sprint for all I’m worth. I’m already thinking ahead about somewhere to hide... the tavern I’ve just gone past is no good – too posh (they’d never let the likes of me in) and anyway, too shut. On I go, up the hill, jumping over and round a load of rats that have just come swarming out of a pub and no doubt glad to be free and no longer part of that gambling set-up the landlord’s got going. Coming to an open space, and looking right I realise the place I was thinking of hiding in is no good – big dumb troll stood there. Don’t know why, what’s it doing there? I hightail it more or less in a straight line heading across in the direction a boozed-up bunch of drunks engaging in their traditional brawl already. They really do hate each other that lot. I’m hoping to lose my pursuers in the throng. I smile as behind me I hear the shouts and cursing of the Red Star boys as they get bit by the rats. I don’t know it for a fact, but I’m assuming they’ve seen where I’ve gone. Wending my way through the crowd (no time to pick pockets, time to duck fists and broken bottles though!), ducking under some poor soul with nothing better to do than hang around, I hang a left at the end of the street and start running again. I see a load of city guard coming towards me, they heard the fight while on gate duty and are probably on the way to break it up, but I’m taking no chances and I dart into a small alley on the right, and , trusting to my luck, pick the lock of a door of a house on my right as quick as you like. I slip in and close the door but before I can even breathe a sigh of relief the next thing I know is that a rather well-dressed gentleman is pointing a rather sharp rapier at me ... right at my throat. My heart sinks. I think I recognise him.
Out of the frying pan into the fire.
Question: precisely where is Gordo at this very moment?
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Post by Wilf on Aug 27, 2019 6:14:32 GMT
Clues: Seaday = Not Khul. Morning and people are drunk already = Possibly Swindon. Sun in my eyes in the morning = heading East. Ducking under someone who's hanging around - probably some poor soul swinging from a gallows.
If you were in Port Blacksand, you probably started at the Public Gardens, ran down Gallows Street, past two taverns, through Executioner's Square, towards Gallows Gate, and then turned down Winding Street and broke into a house before you reached the Catfish River.
Precisely which house? Not sure yet...
Edited To Add: Titannica lists The Headless Troll and The Rat In Hand (in which games involving rats are played) as taverns/inns in the Execution Hill district, albeit not the ones that are marked in Gallows Street on the map in Titan The FF World. But the clues point to them (and possibly Varag's Splendid Alehouse, too?) so I think I'm in the right general locale, and I still think the rapier-wielding gentleman is somewhere in Winding Street.
Further Edited To Add: If answering this requires a knowledge of an FF novel (such as Blacksand!) I am very much at a disadvantage. Sorry!
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 27, 2019 6:52:24 GMT
Clues: Seaday = Not Khul. Morning and people are drunk already = Possibly Swindon. Sun in my eyes in the morning = heading East. Ducking under someone who's hanging around - probably some poor soul swinging from a gallows.
If you were in Port Blacksand, you probably started at the Public Gardens, ran down Gallows Street, past two taverns, through Executioner's Square, towards Gallows Gate, and then turned down Winding Street and broke into a house before you reached the Catfish River.
Precisely which house? Not sure yet...
Edited To Add: Titannica lists The Headless Troll and The Rat In Hand (in which games involving rats are played) as taverns/inns in the Execution Hill district, albeit not the ones that are marked in Gallows Street on the map in Titan The FF World. But the clues point to them (and possibly Varag's Splendid Alehouse, too?) so I think I'm in the right general locale, and I still think the rapier-wielding gentleman is somewhere in Winding Street.
Further Edited To Add: If answering this requires a knowledge of an FF novel (such as Blacksand!) I am very much at a disadvantage. Sorry!
You're doing really well! Almost there... And you don't need any novels. The AFF Blacksand book will suffice.
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Post by schlendrian on Aug 27, 2019 8:43:46 GMT
If that's correct, wilf may take credit and the right to post a new riddle, since he did all the actual work
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 27, 2019 17:29:49 GMT
If that's correct, wilf may take credit and the right to post a new riddle, since he did all the actual work
correct answer! bonus points for showing the working - not ALL of wilf's deductions were correct.
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