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Post by King Gillibran on Dec 28, 2022 12:46:31 GMT
Right we are into the last 20 gamebooks. This time we will be choosing our five least favourite gamebooks. IT CAN INCLUDE ONES YOU DONT HAVE, SO RARER GAMEBOOKS WILL SUFFER.
Get choosing.
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Post by scouserob on Dec 28, 2022 13:07:03 GMT
I'm ashamed to say that I don't own 11 of them. 😬
(That is over half of the favourite 20 books! 🤦🏻♂️)
I guess I'll be sitting this one out. 🙁🤷🏻♂️
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Post by CharlesX on Dec 28, 2022 13:34:40 GMT
My votes:
Talisman Of Death (Brilliant, but isn't as epic as the other gamebooks on the list) Moonrunner (Even though it's probably a classic I never got into it - definitely not as other Hand books) Black Vein Prophecy (Don't own it & never played it, but I hate the Luck test thing, I heard it has some technical errors which I'd hate) Sorcery! Khare Cityport Of Traps (I'm into neither city adventures nor linear adventures, this is both) Sorcery! The Seven Serpents (Well-written, but not as good as the others)
As you can see\tell I'm not as keen on Sorcery! as most FF, and I sometimes prefer work by the founders to those by so-called hacks.
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Post by petch on Dec 28, 2022 13:37:59 GMT
Books I voted for that were eliminated in the preliminary polls: Phantoms of Fear, Portal of Evil, Night Dragon, Magehunter, Bloodbones and The Crown of Kings.
My overall top five of Creature of Havoc, Moonrunner, House of Hell, Deathtrap Dungeon and Howl of the Werewolf all made it through though, so them's the ones that get my votes here.
Edit: oops, should have read King Gillibran's opening post properly. Changing it to my 5 least favourite ones now!
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Post by kieran on Dec 28, 2022 15:27:35 GMT
I also voted for my favourites at first!
For me, the 5 weakest here are:
- Sword of the Samurai
- Slaves of the Abyss
- Night of the Necromancer
- Khare
- The Seven Serpents
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Post by hallucination on Dec 28, 2022 15:57:50 GMT
Difficult selection.
For me, Dead of Night, the two Sorcery! titles, Moonrunner and Siege.
Of which the last two were especially difficult, particularly Siege as I really have nothing against it. Alas, it had stiff competition, being up against some real classics and personal faves!
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Post by sylas on Dec 28, 2022 17:06:03 GMT
Boot eye lake oar loaf dem!
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Post by CharlesX on Dec 28, 2022 17:28:13 GMT
Boot eye lake oar loaf dem! Care to give a spoiler, hint or clue for those of us too stupid to understand what this is a reference to? |
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Post by petch on Dec 28, 2022 18:52:04 GMT
Boot eye lake oar loaf dem! Care to give a spoiler, hint or clue for those of us too stupid to understand what this is a reference to? Read it phonetically. But I like all of them!
I agree - it's tough choosing the 'worst' ones from this lot. |
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Post by CharlesX on Dec 28, 2022 20:18:40 GMT
Difficult selection. For me, Dead of Night, the two Sorcery! titles, Moonrunner and Siege. Of which the last two were especially difficult, particularly Siege as I really have nothing against it. Alas, it had stiff competition, being up against some real classics and personal faves! Dead Of Night and Siege would ordinarily be some of my favourites; but here up against the like of Legend Of The Shadow Warriors and Deathtrap Dungeon they will be fortunate to go through. At this stage failure would be like coming in the top half of international sports (rather than winning a trophy). |
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Post by CharlesX on Dec 28, 2022 20:54:53 GMT
No votes for Legend Of The Shadow Warriors (no votes so far, anyway). Looks like we have an early favourite for the win.
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Post by vastariner on Dec 29, 2022 14:32:02 GMT
It's cheeseparing with these, but such is life. To some extent it is negative marks rather than positive which affect them, e.g.:
-City of Thieves: the twist over the ingredients is rampantly unfair
-House of Hell: 50/50 impossible before you even start
-Trial of Champions: has more going on than Deathtrap Dungeon, but in two-thirds of the time
-Creature of Havoc: the original edition misprint...
-Vault of the Vampire: buggy as heck
-Master of Chaos: sorry, I still can't remember a blind thing about it
-BVP: unfair Luck roll
-Moonrunner: you quite happily slaughter your way through it, and when you get to the big bad...you arrest him?
-Siege of Sardath: excessively linear
-Kharé: the premise is a bit daft
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Post by trialmaster on Dec 29, 2022 16:11:30 GMT
It's cheeseparing with these, but such is life. To some extent it is negative marks rather than positive which affect them, e.g.: -City of Thieves: the twist over the ingredients is rampantly unfair -House of Hell: 50/50 impossible before you even start -Trial of Champions: has more going on than Deathtrap Dungeon, but in two-thirds of the time -Creature of Havoc: the original edition misprint... -Vault of the Vampire: buggy as heck -Master of Chaos: sorry, I still can't remember a blind thing about it -BVP: unfair Luck roll -Moonrunner: you quite happily slaughter your way through it, and when you get to the big bad...you arrest him? -Siege of Sardath: excessively linear -Kharé: the premise is a bit daft |
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Post by trialmaster on Dec 29, 2022 16:23:53 GMT
I do agree with Vastariner on most of his points. It does make me wonder how many of the (13 currently) votes for MOC were by people who don't have or remember playing the book as it was very well written as well as challenging but fair.
Also, although I agree the ingredients could have been handled better in COT, the atmosphere created whilst adventuring in Port Blacksand in this gamebook means it still remains the most exciting and memorable city in the FF world of Titan imo.
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Post by tyrion on Dec 29, 2022 16:42:18 GMT
I do agree with Vastariner on most of his points. It does make me wonder how many of the (13 currently) votes for MOC were by people who don't have or remember playing the book as it was very well written as well as challenging but fair. The town part is interesting, after that I can't really remember much, so it certainly didn't grab my attention. Except at the end I met a dark elf, who apparently I knew but actually didn't, so a demerit for consistency. |
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Post by CharlesX on Dec 29, 2022 17:37:39 GMT
It's cheeseparing with these, but such is life. To some extent it is negative marks rather than positive which affect them, e.g.: -City of Thieves: the twist over the ingredients is rampantly unfair -House of Hell: 50/50 impossible before you even start -Trial of Champions: has more going on than Deathtrap Dungeon, but in two-thirds of the time -Creature of Havoc: the original edition misprint... -Vault of the Vampire: buggy as heck -Master of Chaos: sorry, I still can't remember a blind thing about it -BVP: unfair Luck roll -Moonrunner: you quite happily slaughter your way through it, and when you get to the big bad...you arrest him? -Siege of Sardath: excessively linear -Kharé: the premise is a bit daft Pedantically, I think Revenge Of The Vampire is the buggy one - Vault Of The Vampire probably has fewer rule ambiguities and errors than most FF (that is, I can't remember one). Master Of Chaos is a very good albeit generic (non-epic feeling) FF which wouldn't be out of place in another series such as Lone Wolf or Golden Dragon. |
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Post by kieran on Dec 29, 2022 19:14:39 GMT
Pedantically, I think Revenge Of The Vampire is the buggy one - Vault Of The Vampire probably has fewer rule ambiguities and errors than most FF (that is, I can't remember one). If I recall correctly, the cypher on the chest has an incorrect letter which is a bit confusing but nothing game breaking. |
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Post by vastariner on Dec 29, 2022 19:49:19 GMT
Also, although I agree the ingredients could have been handled better in COT, the atmosphere created whilst adventuring in Port Blacksand in this gamebook means it still remains the most exciting and memorable city in the FF world of Titan imo. I agree, SIL's writing is top notch in this one. But there has to be a way of differentiating a series of very, very good books, and one way is to see what the flaws are - and the flaw in CoT is a bloody massive one in my view; not merely that Nicodemus, supposed top wizard, makes such a ludicrous eff-up, but that the useless bastard is so fucking glib about it; "I suggest you try A with B, or B with C, or A with C." Oh, thanks for that, you beardy twat. Any more fucking useful suggestions? Maybe J with M? Maybe you get off your stupid shitwank arse and come and fucking help me rather than give me a 2 in 3 chance of dying all because YOU are a FUCKWIT? |
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Post by paperexplorer on Dec 30, 2022 3:21:39 GMT
This... was tough to narrow down to just 5
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Post by paperexplorer on Dec 30, 2022 3:24:59 GMT
Also, although I agree the ingredients could have been handled better in COT, the atmosphere created whilst adventuring in Port Blacksand in this gamebook means it still remains the most exciting and memorable city in the FF world of Titan imo. I agree, SIL's writing is top notch in this one. But there has to be a way of differentiating a series of very, very good books, and one way is to see what the flaws are - and the flaw in CoT is a bloody massive one in my view; not merely that Nicodemus, supposed top wizard, makes such a ludicrous eff-up, but that the useless bastard is so fucking glib about it; "I suggest you try A with B, or B with C, or A with C." Oh, thanks for that, you beardy twat. Any more fucking useful suggestions? Maybe J with M? Maybe you get off your stupid shitwank arse and come and fucking help me rather than give me a 2 in 3 chance of dying all because YOU are a FUCKWIT? And that's how Vastariner became a newt... |
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Dec 30, 2022 5:39:01 GMT
Master of Chaos: sorry, I still can't remember a blind thing about it You don't remember Jesper the mongoose or Naas the evil but honourable dark elf?
Admittedly Shanzikuul himself is not very memorable – an illustration would have helped.
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Post by vastariner on Dec 30, 2022 7:21:57 GMT
I agree, SIL's writing is top notch in this one. But there has to be a way of differentiating a series of very, very good books, and one way is to see what the flaws are - and the flaw in CoT is a bloody massive one in my view; not merely that Nicodemus, supposed top wizard, makes such a ludicrous eff-up, but that the useless bastard is so fucking glib about it; "I suggest you try A with B, or B with C, or A with C." Oh, thanks for that, you beardy twat. Any more fucking useful suggestions? Maybe J with M? Maybe you get off your stupid shitwank arse and come and fucking help me rather than give me a 2 in 3 chance of dying all because YOU are a FUCKWIT? And that's how Vastariner became a newt... I got better. |
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Post by King Gillibran on Dec 30, 2022 7:54:51 GMT
I'm ashamed to say that I don't own 11 of them. 😬 (That is over half of the favourite 20 books! 🤦🏻♂️ )I guess I'll be sitting this one out. 🙁🤷🏻♂️ Just vote for the ones you do not have. I did it so that rarer books that are hard to get hold of suffer so classics stand a better chance. Many people (myself included) sometimes might just vote for a book that is rare because it is cool. Actually I don't know if that is very common, but all the same I just feel that classics might stand a better chance. |
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Post by pip on Dec 30, 2022 9:44:50 GMT
I'm ashamed to say that I don't own 11 of them. 😬 (That is over half of the favourite 20 books! 🤦🏻♂️ )I guess I'll be sitting this one out. 🙁🤷🏻♂️ Just vote for the ones you do not have. I did it so that rarer books that are hard to get hold of suffer so classics stand a better chance. Many people (myself included) sometimes might just vote for a book that is rare because it is cool. Actually I don't know if that is very common, but all the same I just feel that classics might stand a better chance. Not sure I agree with this. It's one thing to participate in such a poll when there are a couple of books you haven't read, but to actually vote when you haven't read the majority of them? You might as well be throwing darts to elect a winner. |
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Post by King Gillibran on Dec 30, 2022 12:09:46 GMT
Maybe you're right, and you shouldn't but then either people sit out or they have to vote for gamebooks they have but still like?
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Post by King Gillibran on Jan 2, 2023 8:39:15 GMT
Should I lock the Poll?
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Post by kieran on Jan 2, 2023 11:17:09 GMT
May as well, voting seems to have trickled to a stop |
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Post by trialmaster on Jan 2, 2023 11:44:36 GMT
Yes 39 voters seems to be the max we are getting for these polls (which is a pretty good number).
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Post by CharlesX on Jan 2, 2023 16:23:25 GMT
R.I.P. Trial Of Champions  . So, will there be some more polls to whittle this down to our favourite 20, 10, 5, 2 and 1 or is this contest now over with?
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Post by paperexplorer on Jan 2, 2023 22:08:30 GMT
Oh, I ve just realised I read the title wrong and voted for my favourites...
EDIT: this doesn't change any outcomes on the poll btw, but cmon guys, Black Vein Prophecy was awesome
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