vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 19, 2019 8:19:23 GMT
[quote author=" philsadler" [/quote]
"Maybe he had it ghost written like some of his other books?"
I guess. Very different the style. Too much American all the book.
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vagsancho
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 19, 2019 10:12:09 GMT
Where de we find a crowbar to open the back of the police car?
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 19, 2019 14:56:52 GMT
I'll say it again.. My feeling.. This book has nothing related with Livingstone's style. Too much American.
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 19, 2019 15:46:25 GMT
A good book. Works to me. Comparing with mad max, I prefer this book.
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 20, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
I died today in this book. How I hate to die in a FF book. I have punched the wall, I screamed at the sky. What a despicable waste of life!
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Post by johnbrawn1972 on Jun 20, 2019 18:28:39 GMT
I died today in this book. How I hate to die in a FF book. I have punched the wall, I screamed at the sky. What a despicable waste of life! Why not try something else like base jumping?
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Post by vagsancho on Jun 20, 2019 20:20:38 GMT
I died today in this book. How I hate to die in a FF book. I have punched the wall, I screamed at the sky. What a despicable waste of life! Why not try something else like base jumping? I've tried. Always endind in coming back to FF.
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Post by johnbrawn1972 on Jun 20, 2019 21:26:38 GMT
Why not try something else like base jumping? I've tried. Always endind in coming back to FF. You sound like a junkie.
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Post by Law on Jun 18, 2020 20:15:47 GMT
FF: FF. Or the fever-dream of a little boy who's two favourite films are 'Goldfinger' and 'The Road Warrior'
(starts to read rules... you can be stronger than your armour-plated death-mobile, are you some sort of super mutant?
Unlimited ammo for your revolver and mounted machine guns, sure thing.
Wouldn't want any tension of limited resources now, would we? Reads intro...)
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Post by Wilf on Jun 18, 2020 21:04:37 GMT
How much grain am I delivering to San Anglo? It can't be very much if I can fit it all in a glorified sports car. Is the boot dimensionally transcendental, like a new age Pouch of Unlimited Contents?
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Post by The Count on Jun 19, 2020 0:46:10 GMT
The only reason this isn't my least favourite FF book is Blood of the Zombies followed around 30 years later (then Gates of Death appeared, improving it's ranking again)...
Dull, dreary, dismal. The much mocked drawing of a stick is probably the books highlight - at least some effort went into making that substantial, unlike the plot.
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Post by kieran on Jun 19, 2020 7:44:23 GMT
How much grain am I delivering to San Anglo? It can't be very much if I can fit it all in a glorified sports car. Is the boot dimensionally transcendental, like a new age Pouch of Unlimited Contents? I also find it weird that when you're driving a sportscar's worth of grain, the car kitted out with all manner of weapons, there's a neverending procession of ne'er-do-wells trying to kill you. When you're driving a tanker of petrol with no way to protect yourself, you're largely left alone. Did you kill everyone on your way down?
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Post by vastariner on Jun 19, 2020 17:52:14 GMT
How much grain am I delivering to San Anglo? It can't be very much if I can fit it all in a glorified sports car. Is the boot dimensionally transcendental, like a new age Pouch of Unlimited Contents? I also find it weird that when you're driving a sportscar's worth of grain, the car kitted out with all manner of weapons, there's a neverending procession of ne'er-do-wells trying to kill you. When you're driving a tanker of petrol with no way to protect yourself, you're largely left alone. Did you kill everyone on your way down? That's sort of how I rationalized it. You are carrying seed rather than fully germinated grain, perhaps some special resistant strain, and your job is basically to clear the path so that you can get the tanker back. Word gets around that the San Anglo route is off limits.
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Post by dragonwarrior8 on Jun 19, 2020 18:18:33 GMT
The only reason this isn't my least favourite FF book is Blood of the Zombies followed around 30 years later (then Gates of Death appeared, improving it's ranking again)... Dull, dreary, dismal. The much mocked drawing of a stick is probably the books highlight - at least some effort went into making that substantial, unlike the plot. lol! I'll take...."Authors who have done the most damage to their reputation over the last 30 years" for $100 Alex.
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IoannesKantakouzenos
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Post by IoannesKantakouzenos on Jun 10, 2022 10:04:31 GMT
I read this thread hoping to write my own thoughts about FF… and my opinion about it has diminished a lot, with lots of "hey, I never thought about that" self-comments. Curse you all!
Well, to tell the truth, what was I expecting from a book that says the '22 World Cup Final is going to be England - USA? No Germany? Brazil? Italy? Not even Argentina? This book was edited in 1985, was Ian expecting the States to become a football powerhouse in thirty years? Come on…
Yeah, the book is flimsy, the premise is silly (where do you carry grain and seeds inside a Dodge Interceptor, an envelope?), the roads between New Hope and San Anglo almost look like a trek through the Forest of Doom. The hunt for petrol is, as expected, your main concern and, if memory serves, you need to find it, not once, not twice, but three times. So it's Ian's with this "shopping list of items you need to win" once again: you need a tube to get one tank of gasoline, per instance…
… and then we arrive at the Blitz race idea. WHY, gods? After all the petrol you burned trying to win the race, you receive a whole can of petrol. Hurrah! But if you don't run and waste petrol in the race, you end up running out of petrol. Makes pretty damn sense, doesn't it? Yeah, I thought so too. Still about races, the one against Leonardi can be helped if you have a supercharger installed in your car, by adding 1 to your dice result. I guess it must be a pretty weak supercharger then…
And the art. Sorry, Kevin, but no, I cannot possibly have love for the art of this book, especially since you have a character appearing in two of the images and she has two different looks on either. Also, everything is so simply drawn, the gate crash with a van almost looks made by me (and I cannot draw at all)… only thing I like is the front cover and the girl on it (women in black leather under the hot Sun? What's not to love?). Period.
FF can be fun if you overlook all of this - but you cannot, because they smack you in the face frequently. I read it when I'm bored, but cannot be bothered to play it. Sure, the combat rules seem more real than the standard lose-2-Stamina-points thing, but it's still a poor effort nonetheless.
(Yes, managed to finish this text without saying the words "Mad Max ripoff"!)
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Post by kieran on Jun 10, 2022 10:26:44 GMT
Still about races, the one against Leonardi can be helped if you have a supercharger installed in your car, by adding 1 to your dice result. I guess it must be a pretty weak supercharger then… I think it adds 1 to every one of your rolls for the duration of the race so it is fairly helpful. Although I think to buy it you need to forgo repairing your Interceptor which is annoying.
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Post by IoannesKantakouzenos on Jun 10, 2022 13:34:37 GMT
I think it adds 1 to every one of your rolls for the duration of the race so it is fairly helpful. Although I think to buy it you need to forgo repairing your Interceptor which is annoying. Yeah, but I would expect the effect to be more impressive, like an extra dice or something.
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Post by Peter on Jul 21, 2022 2:25:29 GMT
The morning of 21 July 2022 had started just like any other...
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Post by slloyd14 on Jul 21, 2022 15:54:39 GMT
The morning of 21 July 2022 had started just like any other... In Freeway Fighter, the pandemic starts in 2022 when 70% of domestic electricity is solar and East and West have come together in the spirit of friendship. In real life, we already have a pandemic, fossil fuel companies hold us all hostage and Russia has invaded Europe. Which one is supposed to be the dystopia again?
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Post by CharlesX on Jul 21, 2022 16:13:58 GMT
The morning of 21 July 2022 had started just like any other... In Freeway Fighter, the pandemic starts in 2022 when 70% of domestic electricity is solar and East and West have come together in the spirit of friendship. In real life, we already have a pandemic, fossil fuel companies hold us all hostage and Russia has invaded Europe. Which one is supposed to be the dystopia again? The notion of the USA winning\making it to (forget which is in the background) the world soccer cup seems more parallel dimension than dystopia.
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Post by a moderator on Jul 21, 2022 18:04:44 GMT
The morning of 21 July 2022 had started just like any other... In Freeway Fighter, the pandemic starts in 2022 when 70% of domestic electricity is solar and East and West have come together in the spirit of friendship. In real life, we already have a pandemic, fossil fuel companies hold us all hostage and Russia has invaded Europe. Which one is supposed to be the dystopia again? Well, there is the '85% of humanity wiped out by disease' element of Freeway Fighter to take into consideration. Though a lot of 'tolerant' people would potentially be in favour of that, depending on which 85% were the ones that died.
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Post by Peter on Jul 22, 2022 9:02:48 GMT
How prescient was Ian Livingstone though. The Cold War has ended, there are revolutionary farming techniques (irrigation systems, hydroponics, GE), solar power is becoming more prevalent, shorter working weeks are being trialled, football is big in the US, the World Cup is in a non-traditional venue, respiratory diseases such as colds and flu are commonly spread on planes due to poor filtering, and it is hot. And there is a pandemic.
One of his biggest misses was the timing of this year's World Cup, Nov-Dec instead of now.
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Post by slloyd14 on Jul 22, 2022 10:59:39 GMT
In Freeway Fighter, the pandemic starts in 2022 when 70% of domestic electricity is solar and East and West have come together in the spirit of friendship. In real life, we already have a pandemic, fossil fuel companies hold us all hostage and Russia has invaded Europe. Which one is supposed to be the dystopia again? Well, there is the '85% of humanity wiped out by disease' element of Freeway Fighter to take into consideration. Though a lot of 'tolerant' people would potentially be in favour of that, depending on which 85% were the ones that died. That is the downside. Life was pretty good up until that point, though.
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Post by kieran on Jul 22, 2022 12:49:24 GMT
How prescient was Ian Livingstone though. The Cold War has ended, there are revolutionary farming techniques (irrigation systems, hydroponics, GE), solar power is becoming more prevalent, shorter working weeks are being trialled, football is big in the US, the World Cup is in a non-traditional venue, respiratory diseases such as colds and flu are commonly spread on planes due to poor filtering, and it is hot. And there is a pandemic. One of his biggest misses was the timing of this year's World Cup, Nov-Dec instead of now. FIFA, having heeded the warning of Freeway Fighter, granted the World Cup to Qatar in order to prevent the apocalypse coming to pass.
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Post by a moderator on Jul 22, 2022 13:29:09 GMT
So would FIFA be Fans of Ian's FF Adventures?
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Post by johnbrawn1972 on Jul 22, 2022 14:09:24 GMT
So would FIFA be Fans of Ian's FF Adventures? Currently regarding antisocial parameters - the answer must be no.
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Post by petch on Nov 26, 2022 11:11:04 GMT
Well, that England / United States World Cup match that Ian (sort of) predicted didn't live up to expectations. I can only hope the forthcoming apocalypse is more interesting.
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Post by paperexplorer on Dec 4, 2022 23:07:13 GMT
The apocalypse occurs just to stop England winning another world cup, right?
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Post by scouserob on Dec 4, 2022 23:24:39 GMT
Well the Netherlands 🇳🇱 put paid to the the Freeway Fighter World Cup final of 🏴 v 🇺🇸. That means the apocalypse has been averted, right? … Right?
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Post by petch on Dec 5, 2022 17:51:59 GMT
Yeah, probably. Annoyingly that means I've been stocking up on fingerless gloves, flamethrowing guitars and gimp masks for nothing. Although actually thinking about it I could still get some use out of that last thing for, uh...other reasons.
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