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Post by jmisbest on Aug 19, 2022 21:58:05 GMT
I've got a confession. The confession is that I'm so looking forward to Giants of Salamonis that even though its not out for a few weeks I've already generated my characters Skill, Stamina and luck and have taken the wise precautions of rolling 1D6, 2D6 and 3D6 for gold and in case theirs a stat, which if their is I believe that it will be a new 1, or something similiar I've taken the precaution of rolling 1D6, 2D6 and 3D6. Was that a daft idea?
In case your wondering my stat rolls were A 12 for Skill, A 17 for Stamina and A 7 for Luck, the precautionry rolls for Gold were A 1D6 roll of A 6, A 2D6 roll of A 2 and A 3D6 roll of A 14 and the precautionery rolls for a new stat or something similiar were a 1D6 roll of A 1, A 2D6 roll of A 8 and A 3D6 roll of A 17
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Post by misomiso on Aug 19, 2022 22:40:08 GMT
a 12 for skill?! A likely story...
I hereby gift you THIS character to use for the new book:-
Skill: 10
Stamina: 19
Luck: 11
You may roll gold or the forth stat yourself.
I hope you enjoy!
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Aug 19, 2022 23:01:03 GMT
Giants of Salamonis by Ian Jackson.
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Post by daredevil123 on Aug 19, 2022 23:12:57 GMT
I'm so looking forward to Giants of Salamonis Do you realise Shadow of the Giants and Secrets of Salamonis are two different books? In answer to your question, I don't think there's much point in rolling up a character in advance, but at the same time I can't see why anyone's opinion on this even matters. |
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 20, 2022 6:32:42 GMT
I'm so looking forward to Giants of Salamonis Do you realise Shadow of the Giants and Secrets of Salamonis are two different books? In answer to your question, I don't think there's much point in rolling up a character in advance, but at the same time I can't see why anyone's opinion on this even matters. If Jimisbest doesn't realise this as I think he doesn't, his pre-rolled stats will only apply to one of the two, so he will.have the 'nightmare' decision to either choose which (suggestion: Livingstone's Shadow of the Giants), pre-roll for a second time, or abandon it. Rolling up good stats is going to make it hard to abandon it. Since tossing those dice and recording those stats 'doesn't take 5 minutes' I don't think this is much of a confession nor that it deserves its own thread. I don't think it's particularly sensible because as Jimisbest himself notes J & L may well have different character start rules from the norm. |
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Post by jmisbest on Aug 20, 2022 8:42:55 GMT
I'm so looking forward to Giants of Salamonis Do you realise Shadow of the Giants and Secrets of Salamonis are two different books? In answer to your question, I don't think there's much point in rolling up a character in advance, but at the same time I can't see why anyone's opinion on this even matters. So I got the title wrong and its Shadows of Giants. Sorry, Everyone makes mistakes |
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Post by stevendoig on Aug 20, 2022 14:06:33 GMT
I think we want to know which of the two books you are excited about?
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 20, 2022 14:17:30 GMT
I think we want to know which of the two books you are excited about? On the basis Jimisbest was so excited about Shadow of the Giants he conflated it with Secrets Of Salamonis, as well as pre-rolling stats for it, it sounds like he is more excited about Ian's one, although he's probably counting the days until he can get the two like most here. |
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Aug 20, 2022 15:25:41 GMT
Gotta love the dice that always rolls 4 or higher for Skill when convenient.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 20, 2022 15:40:06 GMT
Gotta love the dice that always rolls 4 or higher for Skill when convenient. I'm inclined to believe Jimisbest was just lucky with his Skill roll, especially given his Stamina is below-average and his Luck is the minimum possible. |
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sylas
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Post by sylas on Aug 20, 2022 15:43:54 GMT
Gotta love the dice that always rolls 4 or higher for Skill when convenient. I'm inclined to believe Jimisbest was just lucky with his Skill roll, especially given his Stamina is below-average and his Luck is the minimum possible. Going by the stats of some of his previous characters, i'm not so sure. |
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Post by daredevil123 on Aug 20, 2022 16:23:04 GMT
Do you realise Shadow of the Giants and Secrets of Salamonis are two different books? In answer to your question, I don't think there's much point in rolling up a character in advance, but at the same time I can't see why anyone's opinion on this even matters. So I got the title wrong and its Shadows of Giants. , in point of fact... |
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Post by tyrion on Aug 20, 2022 20:12:36 GMT
I've done my character
Strength 18/00
Constitution 18
Dexterity 18
Intelligence 18
Wisdom 18
Charisma 18
Comeliness 18
I'm thinking a drow cavalier.
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Post by jmisbest on Aug 20, 2022 22:39:29 GMT
I'm inclined to believe Jimisbest was just lucky with his Skill roll, especially given his Stamina is below-average and his Luck is the minimum possible. Going by the stats of some of his previous characters, i'm not so sure. [br) I will finally admit that even though I play at least 2 fighting books a fortnight, which means at least 52 a year, I tend to only mention a select few of tbe most powerful that I make per year, that way I make it seem like I'm a lot luckier then I am |
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Post by jmisbest on Aug 20, 2022 22:40:34 GMT
So I got the title wrong and its Shadows of Giants. , in point of fact... So I got the title wrong again, Sorry.It really isn't my day |
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Post by jmisbest on Aug 20, 2022 22:59:28 GMT
I've been thinking and I've come up with ideas for 2 unusual stats for secrets of Salamonis, they are both based on my assumption that you play either A Watchmen, A Soldier or A Spy ad the part they I think they would play in the book
The 1st is Rank, this is your rank within the organization you serve and the higher it is the more people are under your command and if theirs a big battle then the higher this is the more chance you have of being given a key role in the big battle
The 2nd is Popularity and it represents how popular you are with the citizens, having a high enough 1 can turn several very hard fights into easy fights and if their is a big fight then during the big fight theirs a pass or die luck test but if your populsrity stats is maxed out then you will automatically pass it
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Post by a moderator on Aug 20, 2022 23:50:52 GMT
Pointless speculation is pointless.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 21, 2022 4:48:47 GMT
Agree with Greenspine. This might sound traitorous but I suggest you are putting too much thought and effort into these two FFs - whether or not they turn out to be good, great, or brilliant they haven't come out yet, and there are lots of others gamebooks to be read in the week-and-a-bit before they do. I don't know whether the two new FFs will be the first of many more, or will turn around the variable quality which has plagued the series, but we will find out in September.
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Post by hallucination on Aug 21, 2022 7:15:24 GMT
Oh, I’ll join you and indulge in some speculation. Hmm, let me think,
Which of the two books will contain the higher number of (unique) fightable foes?
Which of the two will require the higher number of items to succeed?
Which of the two will have the higher number of visits to, encounters with or shout-outs to places and characters from earlier published FF?
Which will have the highest skilled foe on the “true path”?
Which will have the highest number of useless skill increases?
Which will put the biggest dent in an adventurer’s luck (not counting optional testing during battle)?
It’s not quite how many jelly beans in the jar, is it.. i know what I’d guess to answer these, haha. But certainly am very open to being surprised by these new releases!
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Post by paperexplorer on Aug 21, 2022 23:28:30 GMT
Steve Jackson's book intrigues me the most of the two. Ian's seems a straightforward quest by the short blurb, but this reads like there are multiple quests within an overall story arc. Based on the listed page count, Steve's gone well over 400 references and I'm starting to think there may be multiple ways through the book that eventually lead to whatever the shimmering man is (similar to Appointment with FEAR)
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Post by misomiso on Aug 22, 2022 6:15:10 GMT
@pagerexplorer what is the listed page count of the two books?
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Post by Wilf on Aug 22, 2022 6:56:49 GMT
@pagerexplorer what is the listed page count of the two books? According to Amazon, the page count of Secrets Of Salamonis is 368 pages. This is a lot more than most other FF books, and would put it somewhere between Gates Of Death and Night Of The Necromancer in terms of chunky-doorstop-ness. Shadow Of The Giants has a more typical 288 pages. Whether this means more references or longer references (or both) we'll find out next month... |
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 22, 2022 17:50:12 GMT
Steve Jackson's book intrigues me the most of the two. Ian's seems a straightforward quest by the short blurb, but this reads like there are multiple quests within an overall story arc. Based on the listed page count, Steve's gone well over 400 references and I'm starting to think there may be multiple ways through the book that eventually lead to whatever the shimmering man is (similar to Appointment with FEAR) Thanks for the quote paperexplorer - Secrets of Salamonis sounds to me a touch like those CYOA books, which to me is a good thing. Or an FF by Jon Green, Keith Martin or Dave Morris. |
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Post by paperexplorer on Aug 29, 2022 2:35:46 GMT
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Post by slloyd14 on Aug 29, 2022 10:12:31 GMT
Bt reading the blurbs:
Secrets of Salamonis sounds like an open world exploration. There doesn't seem to be one bad guy and lots of options, which may explain the high page count.
Shadow of the Giants sounds like classic Livingstone. Big world ending bad guy, find the macguffin (or in this case person) to stop it. I'm calling it now - Yaztromo, Nicodemus and Pen Ky Tora are all going to be in it.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 29, 2022 14:45:53 GMT
I'm calling it now - Yaztromo, Nicodemus and Pen Ky Tora are all going to be in it. Good shout. I won't be betting against you. The cover. Down at the bottom left - the old boy running for it... Just a civilian caught up in the attack, a new character you meet in the book, or Yaztromo or Nicodemus maybe? |
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Post by paperexplorer on Sept 6, 2022 3:07:37 GMT
I got excited this morning when I saw the postman sliding a package into my mailbox. Went out and tore it open to find "Assassins of Allansia"
Oh yeah, forgot I ordered that too. Not what I was most looking forward to, but a new FF to read through nonetheless
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Post by slloyd14 on Sept 6, 2022 7:55:54 GMT
Bt reading the blurbs: Secrets of Salamonis sounds like an open world exploration. There doesn't seem to be one bad guy and lots of options, which may explain the high page count. Shadow of the Giants sounds like classic Livingstone. Big world ending bad guy, find the macguffin (or in this case person) to stop it. I'm calling it now - Yaztromo, Nicodemus and Pen Ky Tora are all going to be in it. I haven't done Secrets yet, but I was wrong about the three Star Pupils. The person to find is a new character. However, it is very much classic Ian Livingstone but more fairly implemented. |
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