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Post by misomiso on Nov 27, 2022 15:24:11 GMT
Will be good to see you all there again!
What kind of things would you like to see?
I'm hoping for another two new books at least each by Ian and Steve. Not sure what Steve will do but from Ian it would be good to maybe see a 'Return to Deathtrap Dungeon' type book, maybe with the original layout of the Dungeon but changed a bit to trick adventurers. Perhaps in an alternate timeline so it doesn't clash with other ToC and AoD.
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Post by King Gillibran on Nov 28, 2022 16:51:41 GMT
Will be good to see you all there again!
What kind of things would you like to see?
I'm hoping for another two new books at least each by Ian and Steve. Not sure what Steve will do but from Ian it would be good to maybe see a 'Return to Deathtrap Dungeon' type book, maybe with the original layout of the Dungeon but changed a bit to trick adventurers. Perhaps in an alternate timeline so it doesn't clash with other ToC and AoD.
Would love to go but probably won't be able to. I would like to see a Return to Deathtrap Dungeon and Steve could do a sequel to Secrets of Salamonis.
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Post by misomiso on Nov 28, 2022 19:39:19 GMT
Would rather see 'Sorcery! 5' by Steve, although really loved SoS.
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Post by a moderator on Nov 28, 2022 23:33:43 GMT
Steve was the author who did most to open up new areas to FF: You can use magic! It's a different genre! It's an ongoing saga! Horror story! Superheroes! You're a monster! You're not a hero yet, but maybe...
I'd rather he found a new way to push the envelope than rehash an old idea.
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Post by CharlesX on Sept 6, 2023 16:12:40 GMT
Will be good to see you all there again!
What kind of things would you like to see?
I'm hoping for another two new books at least each by Ian and Steve. Not sure what Steve will do but from Ian it would be good to maybe see a 'Return to Deathtrap Dungeon' type book, maybe with the original layout of the Dungeon but changed a bit to trick adventurers. Perhaps in an alternate timeline so it doesn't clash with other ToC and AoD.
Would love to go but probably won't be able to. I would like to see a Return to Deathtrap Dungeon and Steve could do a sequel to Secrets of Salamonis.
Haven't been to FF conventions before, might do at some point. Did anything happen to the plan to meet up, or was it dropped? I appreciate sequels can be well-written, and I've absolutely no objection if it were, but I'd add my voice to others saying it might be best not to. I like the new FFs and they're both basically\pretty much new, with only a few nods, references and tributes to previous FFs (I don't mind these if they're not shoe-horned in like the ones in Assassins Of Allansia). I'd also suggest it'd be great if FF had a new starting-point; if you weren't an adventurer hunting for treasure and glory. FFs track record for sequels\returning bad guys hasn't been brilliant in my own opinion - Deathtrap Dungeon Trial Of Champions Armies Of Death, Warlock Of Firetop Mountain Return To Firetop Mountain Legend Of Zagor, City Of Thieves Port Of Peril. Black Vein Prophecy & Crimson Tide are an exception, and Sorcery! App I've heard is a good re-imagining, but generally FF doesn't seem to buck the expectation sequels and returns won't be as good as their original.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Sept 10, 2023 7:45:16 GMT
Haven't been to FF conventions before, might do at some point. Did anything happen to the plan to meet up, or was it dropped? They are worth going to, especially if you a die-hard fan and haven't been to one before. A chance to meet the authors, the artists, get stuff signed and bought.. you know, all the convention stuff. And yes some of us did meet up, though sadly for me it was only towards the end when i saw most of the Fantazine members. But I did get to chew Paul Mason's ear off before he gave his talk in the auditorium. Meet ups between people who only know each other via forums are best organised simply and unambiguously. Be at [location x] at precisely [time y]. Preferably carrying a copy of the Times or wearing a pink carnation or something. All else leads to confusion.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Sept 14, 2023 10:13:37 GMT
Haven't been to FF conventions before, might do at some point. Did anything happen to the plan to meet up, or was it dropped? They are worth going to, especially if you a die-hard fan and haven't been to one before. A chance to meet the authors, the artists, get stuff signed and bought.. you know, all the convention stuff. And yes some of us did meet up, though sadly for me it was only towards the end when i saw most of the Fantazine members. But I did get to chew Paul Mason's ear off before he gave his talk in the auditorium. Meet ups between people who only know each other via forums are best organised simply and unambiguously. Be at [location x] at precisely [time y]. Preferably carrying a copy of the Times or wearing a pink carnation or something. All else leads to confusion. 'gave his talk' sounds like I did something more substantial than sit between Marc and Peter and make occasional wisecracks, when not listening rapt to Keith's explanation of how he got into writing FF, and Peter's confession to being a taxman. I think the Fantazine meet-up fell victim to the imprecisely comprehended geography of the venue. It could be done better. I have to be in Australia next summer, but maybe I could use FFF again as an excuse to come over?
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Post by hallucination on Jan 15, 2024 23:38:10 GMT
It seems a time and place has been scheduled: Sept 7, again at University of West London
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Post by sleepyscholar on Jan 16, 2024 1:44:09 GMT
It seems a time and place has been scheduled: Sept 7, again at University of West London I've now sort of committed myself to going, by arranging a family gathering the week before. The trick is going to be to convince the con to invite me again, and my university to allow me to go. Maybe I should offer to lecture on 'The Decentering of Creation: How Fighting Fantasy Subverts Bourdieu's Charismatic Ideology of the Author'? That'd pack 'em in, wouldn't it?
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Post by CharlesX on Jan 16, 2024 14:45:00 GMT
It seems a time and place has been scheduled: Sept 7, again at University of West London I've now sort of committed myself to going, by arranging a family gathering the week before. The trick is going to be to convince the con to invite me again, and my university to allow me to go. Maybe I should offer to lecture on 'The Decentering of Creation: How Fighting Fantasy Subverts Bourdieu's Charismatic Ideology of the Author'? That'd pack 'em in, wouldn't it? Try telling your university its Marxist. That will get most first and second year undergrads on your side while causing civil war among dons.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Jan 16, 2024 15:18:41 GMT
I've now sort of committed myself to going, by arranging a family gathering the week before. The trick is going to be to convince the con to invite me again, and my university to allow me to go. Maybe I should offer to lecture on 'The Decentering of Creation: How Fighting Fantasy Subverts Bourdieu's Charismatic Ideology of the Author'? That'd pack 'em in, wouldn't it? Try telling your university its Marxist. That will get most first and second year undergrads on your side while causing civil war among dons.
I teach at a Japanese university. There are no dons. There is no interest in politics among students. There's pretty well no Marxism, and what there is, occasions no controversy. If I told my university it was Marxist the response would be 'And...?' Even at a UK university I would be very surprised if a significant number of 1st and 2nd years had much interest in Marxism. I think Marxism is a subject that is of much more concern to the anti-woke brigade, who love confected out-of-date/misinterpreted controversies to get outraged over. Hence 'Cultural Marxism', which apparently refers to terrible behaviour like pointing out that a lot of early 70s TV is sexist and racist. To persuade my university to let me go I simply have to persuade them that there is some academic element involved in it -- ideally a presentation, but research might have to do.
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Post by a moderator on Jan 16, 2024 23:30:49 GMT
I think the local fly-posters who keep putting up signs (many of them featuring pictures of Karl himself) calling for people to get organised for the violent overthrow of capitalism might disagree with you there, sleepyscholar.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Jan 16, 2024 23:41:56 GMT
I think the local fly-posters who keep putting up signs (many of them featuring pictures of Karl himself) calling for people to get organised for the violent overthrow of capitalism might disagree with you there, sleepyscholar . Local to where?
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Post by a moderator on Jan 17, 2024 1:25:49 GMT
I think the local fly-posters who keep putting up signs (many of them featuring pictures of Karl himself) calling for people to get organised for the violent overthrow of capitalism might disagree with you there, sleepyscholar . Local to where? Hull. Marxism may be no big deal in Japan, but here it's still popular with agitators.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Jan 17, 2024 4:27:36 GMT
Hull. Marxism may be no big deal in Japan, but here it's still popular with agitators. Japan has an active and quite successful Communist party that generally has seats (currently about 10) in the Diet. I think my point was not that Marx's face or name doesn't get used (much like Che Guevara) in such contexts by a small number of aficionados, but that the majority of 1st and 2nd year university undergraduates -- even in Hull -- have minimal interest in him, and that Marxism (as against 'Cultural Marxism' ranting) is not a hot-potato political topic.
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Post by hallucination on Apr 9, 2024 6:17:10 GMT
A welcome announcement - Ian Livingstone, Iain McCaig, Marc Gascoigne, Paul Mason, Malcolm Barter, Tony Hough named so far for FFF5. Presumably we can infer Jon Green too, though not yet named.
I thought Steve Jackson was also named when promo started for this but now his name appears to be dropped. Not unexpected I guess, or maybe my memory is tricking me
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Post by hallucination on Apr 9, 2024 6:20:02 GMT
Tickets from 12 Apr
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Post by misomiso on Apr 9, 2024 12:00:19 GMT
Yeay! Wonder how much they will be.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Apr 10, 2024 9:26:20 GMT
A welcome announcement - Ian Livingstone, Iain McCaig, Marc Gascoigne, Paul Mason, Malcolm Barter, Tony Hough named so far for FFF5. Presumably we can infer Jon Green too, though not yet named. Since it was Jon Green who invited me, I strongly suspect he'll be there! I wonder if Marc and I will be expected to reprise our two-man banter-fuelled signing? I actually really dislike defacing books, and only do it because, after all, they're only ones I wrote.
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Post by kieran on Apr 10, 2024 10:21:11 GMT
A welcome announcement - Ian Livingstone, Iain McCaig, Marc Gascoigne, Paul Mason, Malcolm Barter, Tony Hough named so far for FFF5. Presumably we can infer Jon Green too, though not yet named. Since it was Jon Green who invited me, I strongly suspect he'll be there! This sounds like the start of a horror story. Envisioning a lot of confused gamebook authors trapped in a stately home, wondering when their mysterious host will arrive.
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Post by hallucination on Apr 12, 2024 8:32:10 GMT
Yeay! Wonder how much they will be. roughly 50 quid Some more names were added: Dave Morris, Jamie Thomson, Keith P Phillips and that formerly elusive Jon Green
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Post by Jonathan Green on Apr 12, 2024 10:12:58 GMT
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Post by misomiso on Apr 12, 2024 11:49:02 GMT
Ticket bought!
Looking forward to seeing everybody again.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Apr 14, 2024 11:56:38 GMT
Yeay! Wonder how much they will be. roughly 50 quid Some more names were added: Dave Morris, Jamie Thomson, Keith P Phillips and that formerly elusive Jon Green Clearly they just bunged the names down of people who'd replied, and as I replied by return of email, my name got in there. Glad to see Dave and Jamie will be coming, and without prodding from me, either! (I suspect that having just finished the Vulcanverse series -- possibly the first ever completed open world gamebook series? -- they want to do a bit of promo).
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Post by Per on Apr 14, 2024 16:06:03 GMT
two-man banter-fuelled singing Make it happen
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Post by sleepyscholar on Apr 14, 2024 23:28:38 GMT
two-man banter-fuelled singing Make it happen My band has just gone on hiatus as the other guy has some unknown problem causing him double vision. But he's the singer, and there's a very good reason for that! My sole moment of glory was when I managed to do the Mike Flowers original version of Wonderwall at a gig long ago, and I'm not repeating that, despite the compliments.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 2, 2024 20:43:38 GMT
I'm almost out the door for my trip to Perth (Australia, not Scotland), but I thought I'd just mention that I just heard back from Steve Williams, and he says he's coming along as well. So now he gets to field questions about how weird our books are! How this will affect the banter-fuelled signing (or singing) I'm not sure.
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 3, 2024 10:56:21 GMT
I'm almost out the door for my trip to Perth (Australia, not Scotland), but I thought I'd just mention that I just heard back from Steve Williams, and he says he's coming along as well. So now he gets to field questions about how weird our books are! How this will affect the banter-fuelled signing (or singing) I'm not sure. Do you read and re-read your books before attending? To jog the old memory cells. Also, though I won't be able to make it this time, a 'director's commentary' on your books and the series in general with you and Steve Williams bouncing anecdotes and thoughts off each other would be something I'd want to see happen.
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Post by sleepyscholar on Aug 5, 2024 9:09:43 GMT
I'm almost out the door for my trip to Perth (Australia, not Scotland), but I thought I'd just mention that I just heard back from Steve Williams, and he says he's coming along as well. So now he gets to field questions about how weird our books are! How this will affect the banter-fuelled signing (or singing) I'm not sure. Do you read and re-read your books before attending? To jog the old memory cells. Also, though I won't be able to make it this time, a 'director's commentary' on your books and the series in general with you and Steve Williams bouncing anecdotes and thoughts off each other would be something I'd want to see happen. I almost never re-read my books. One exception is that I did look through Magehunter when I was considering how feasible it would be to file off the FF elements and release it myself (akin to Dave & Jamie's release). My books are all at my office and I'm not going to be anywhere near there for a while. I suspect Steve W would be even less up for rereading our books than I would. The idea of a Director's Commentary (Rob Brydon's Director's Commentary DVD is one of my great comfort views) is appealing, but I would mostly be attempting to channel Peter de Lane (snigger, snigger, naughty Peter) which would probably be an injoke too far for attendees.
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Post by blueswift on Aug 5, 2024 22:41:32 GMT
Do you read and re-read your books before attending? To jog the old memory cells. Also, though I won't be able to make it this time, a 'director's commentary' on your books and the series in general with you and Steve Williams bouncing anecdotes and thoughts off each other would be something I'd want to see happen. I almost never re-read my books. Is the reason the below? Would be understandable if so. You grew weary of having to read them a manifold of times during the editing process. So the idea of venturing yet another repetition is an unattractive one?
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