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Post by nathanh on Sept 20, 2023 12:31:25 GMT
How many books are there where it's possible to see all art in a single successful playthrough? Legend of Zagor I think you can. I don't think there are any Forest of Doom art that leads to failure, so technically that would mean you can do an all-art playthrough.
Some examples I had hopes for: I thought the structure of Scorpion Swamp might let it quality, but reference 375 is a failure paragraph with art, so this isn't even a lesser example; Island of the Undead has some mutually exclusive art in the swamp; Vault of the Vampire has some mutually exclusive art on the way to the castle.
The lesser version, where each piece of art is accessible on a winning route but not all can be seen on the same playthrough, has rather more examples.
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Post by a moderator on Sept 20, 2023 12:59:13 GMT
I'm not aware of any others, but there are some books I don't know thoroughly enough to be certain.
Robot Commando strikes me as a maybe, and the possibility of an uncontrolled ZED spell sending you back to near the start of the book might provide a loophole allowing for the inclusion of The Crown of Kings.
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Post by scouserob on Sept 20, 2023 13:58:02 GMT
For those I have completed:
1. Warlock of Firetop Mountain (No. The Giant Spider and Cyclops are on separate routes.)
2. Citadel of Chaos (No. The tentacle and the group by the fire are on separate routes.)
3. Forest of Doom (I think you can. There are no death paragraph illustrations, so you can loop through everything.)
4. Starship Traveller (No. Beaming down to the water planet is not on the winning route.)
5. City of Thieves (No. The Lizardine and Mad Man are on separate routes/streets.)
6. Deathtrap Dungeon (No. The Mirror Demon is not on a winning route.)
7. Island of the Lizard King (No. The Water Elemental and the Bear are on separate routes.)
8. Scorpion Swamp (No the cool hooded figure that blows up Grimslade's tower is not on a winning route.)
9. Caverns of the Snow Witch (No. Redswift's brother, Ash, and the Night Stalker are on separate routes.)
10. House of Hell (No. The Ghoul in the kitchen is not on a winning route.)
11. Talisman of Death (I think you can, with the loops back to the Rift and outside of Greyguilds.)
12. Space Assassin (No. The Deity and the Cephalo Squirrels are on separate routes.)
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24. Creature of Havoc (No. Dree is not on the winning route.)
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65. Blood of the Zombies (No. If you see the armour and Ian Livingstone's bust (Ooh Matron!) then you have missed a Zombie.)
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71. Shadow of the Giants (Yes you can. No loops required.)
S1. The Shamutanti Hills (No. The Elvins throwing acorns and the Ogre in the mines are on separate routes.)
S2. Kharé: Cityport of Traps (No. The fish in the fountain and the Living Corpse are on separate routes.)
S3. The Seven Serpents (No. The snake charmer and the Baddu Beetle are on separate routes.)
S4. The Crown of Kings (No. If you see Naggamanteh's quarters then you get locked in, which is not on the winning route.)
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Post by a moderator on Sept 20, 2023 15:55:57 GMT
For those I have completed:
1. Warlock of Firetop Mountain (No. The Giant Spider and Cyclops are on separate routes.)
2. Citadel of Chaos (No. The tentacle and the group by the fire are on separate routes.)
3. Forest of Doom (I think you can. There are no death paragraph illustrations, so you can loop through everything.)
4. Starship Traveller (No. Beaming down to the water planet is not on the winning route.)
5. City of Thieves (No. The Lizardine and Mad Man are on separate routes/streets.)
6. Deathtrap Dungeon (No. The Mirror Demon is not on a winning route.)
7. Island of the Lizard King (No. The Water Elemental and the Bear are on separate routes.)
8. Scorpion Swamp (No the cool hooded figure that blows up Grimslade's tower is not on a winning route.)
9. Caverns of the Snow Witch (No. Redswift's brother, Ash, and the Night Stalker are on separate routes.)
10. House of Hell (No. The Ghoul in the kitchen is not on a winning route.)
11. Talisman of Death (I think you can, with the loops back to the Rift and outside of Greyguilds.)
12. Space Assassin (No. The Deity and the Cephalo Squirrels are on separate routes.)
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24. Creature of Havoc (No. Dree is not on the winning route.)
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65. Blood of the Zombies (No. If you see the armour and Ian Livingstone's bust (Ooh Matron!) then you have missed a Zombie.)
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71. Shadow of the Giants (Yes you can. No loops required.)
I can add some more negatives to the list. 13. Freeway Fighter (No. The rat man is not on a winning route.)14. Temple of Terror (No. The desert rider and the Sand Snapper are on separate routes.)15. The Rings of Kether (No. The pair of 'Blaster' Babbets and the exploding asteroid are on separate routes.)16. Seas of Blood (No. The war galleys and the Roc are on separate routes.)17. Appointment with F.E.A.R. (No. The Macro Brain and the presidential assassination are on separate routes.)20. Sword of the Samurai (No. Yoro Ginsei and Moichi are on separate routes.)21. Trial of Champions (No. The Mind Warp Beast is not on a winning route.)23. Masks of Mayhem (No. The Kraken and the spectres of its victims are on separate routes.)25. Beneath Nightmare Castle (No. The Stone-drop game is not on a winning route.)26. Crypt of the Sorcerer (No. The Black Fairy is not on a winning route.)30. Chasms of Malice (No. The Khuddam and accompanying Orcs, Trolls etc. are not on a winning route.)32. Slaves of the Abyss (No. The eponymous slaves are not on a winning route.)36. Armies of Death (No. The Medusa is not on a winning route.)38. Vault of the Vampire (No. Valderesse the Ranger and the dead Werewolf are on separate routes.)40. Dead of Night (No. The sword of Demon-Slaying and the prison of the Netherworld Sorcerers are on separate routes.)41. Master of Chaos (No. The Chaos Manticore and Captain Grotniss are on separate routes.)44. Legend of the Shadow Warriors (No. The Orcs of the Black Scorpion and the Nightmare Master are on separate routes.)50. Return to Firetop Mountain (No. The Inquisitor and the Chaos Slime Beast are on separate routes.)53. Spellbreaker (No. The hags on broomsticks and the rats in the burning barn are on separate routes.) |
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Post by sylas on Sept 20, 2023 16:30:12 GMT
A few more negatives:
37. Portal of Evil (No. Dryads not on winning path)
42. Black Vein Prophecy (No. Feior and army not on winning path)
47. The Crimson Tide (No. The monks and the bandits are on separate paths)
48. Moonrunner (No. Fool's Gold mannequin not on winning path neither can you meet the Shocker and go to Penkhull)
57. Magehunter (No. I think a good number of pics are on very separate paths)
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Post by CharlesX on Sept 20, 2023 17:04:34 GMT
I thought Gates Of Death might be a positive as there are so many possible loops and possible points to restart the adventure? But the fail ending where you're slaughtered by the demonic army (reference 436) has a large illustration, so that's out. Don't know about EOTD, POP and COS - I like the illustrations in Port Of Peril. Gates Of Death also has an orphan illustration and reference somewhere, I believe one with a giant.
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Post by nathanh on Sept 20, 2023 17:06:24 GMT
22. Robot Commando: I thought we had a chance with this one, but 312 is a picture of our robot sinking into the swamp 
52. Night Dragon: Bagghurd on 204 and the Snow Wolves on 250 are on separate paths.
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Post by schlendrian on Sept 20, 2023 20:28:08 GMT
For those I have completed:
1. Warlock of Firetop Mountain (No. The Giant Spider and Cyclops are on separate routes.)
2. Citadel of Chaos (No. The tentacle and the group by the fire are on separate routes.)
3. Forest of Doom (I think you can. There are no death paragraph illustrations, so you can loop through everything.)
4. Starship Traveller (No. Beaming down to the water planet is not on the winning route.)
5. City of Thieves (No. The Lizardine and Mad Man are on separate routes/streets.)
6. Deathtrap Dungeon (No. The Mirror Demon is not on a winning route.)
7. Island of the Lizard King (No. The Water Elemental and the Bear are on separate routes.)
8. Scorpion Swamp (No the cool hooded figure that blows up Grimslade's tower is not on a winning route.)
9. Caverns of the Snow Witch (No. Redswift's brother, Ash, and the Night Stalker are on separate routes.)
Alright, for this special challenge some of the German translations are actually "superior":
1. Warlock - neither the Giant Spider nor the Cyclops illustrations made it into the translation 5. City - illustration of the Mad Man cut 6. Deathtrap Dungeon - no illustration of Mirror Demon
those being just those I was able to check right now, there's probably more (I don't remember the illustrations you mention for Island f.e. and have no idea what hooded creature you talk about in Scorpion Swampf).
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Post by scouserob on Sept 20, 2023 20:49:01 GMT
Errr…. My short term memory let me down big time regarding the “hooded” fellow in Scorpion Swamp. He is horned for sure but not hooded. I was referring, at least in my own mind, to this: (Forgive me, I’m getting old and daft.) 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Picture from: Fighting Fantasy Project
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Post by King Gillibran on Sept 21, 2023 8:51:48 GMT
Bloodbones - No the Giant Mosquito is not on the true path.
Night of the Necromancer - No there are many different illustrations that are not on the same path. Possibly you could see all of them on multiple tryings of the book winning each time but not all on one run.
Port of Peril - Yes I think you could see them all on one run though it would be very hard.
Assassin's of Allansia - No the sleeping man under the tree is the only one not on the true path.
Secrets of Salamonis - Yes if you do it multiple times. You can see all illustrations but not on the same run.
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Post by Gabe Fandango on Sept 21, 2023 10:02:09 GMT
29. Midnight Rogue (No, the picture of the servant sending the dog at you in Brass' house leads inevitably to Game Over)
35. Daggers of Darkness (No, you can't enter more than 1 maze in a single playthrough, and there's at least 1 picture involving each of the 3 mazes in the book)
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Post by kieran on Sept 21, 2023 10:03:29 GMT
Gates Of Death also has an orphan illustration and reference somewhere, I believe one with a giant.
Yikes - imagine wasting an illustration for a section that it's impossible to reach! |
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Post by a moderator on Sept 21, 2023 12:02:22 GMT
Gates Of Death also has an orphan illustration and reference somewhere, I believe one with a giant.
Yikes - imagine wasting an illustration for a section that it's impossible to reach! If handled well, that could work in a parody gamebook. Deliberately create an orphan reference in which something spectacular happens, have it accompanied by an eye-catching illustration that's likely to whet the reader's appetite for the encounter depicted, and in the middle of a long paragraph, bury the revelation that there's no way of reaching the section. It'd be a troll move, but in the right context and spirit, you could potentially get most readers to concede that it was an impressive prank. |
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Post by schlendrian on Sept 21, 2023 12:44:14 GMT
I was referring, at least in my own mind, to this: (The two Island of the Lizard King illustrations can be seen in the reviews on the same blog.) No, I would remember that, that wasn't in the translation. The illustration of the bear made into "Die Insel des Echsenkönigs", the water elemental didn't. |
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Post by sylas on Sept 21, 2023 14:46:25 GMT
Bloodbones - No the Giant Mosquito is not on the true path. Night of the Necromancer - No there are many different illustrations that are not on the same path. Possibly you could see all of them on multiple tryings of the book winning each time but not all on one run. Port of Peril - Yes I think you could see them all on one run though it would be very hard. Assassin's of Allansia - No the sleeping man under the tree is the only one not on the true path. Secrets of Salamonis - Yes if you do it multiple times. You can see all illustrations but not on the same run. The Giant Mosquito IS on a winning path. But I think you can't encounter the Giant Chameleon and the Praying Mantis in one winning attempt. |
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Post by Gabe Fandango on Sept 21, 2023 14:48:04 GMT
A few more:
19. Demons of the Deep (No. The picture of the 2 Deep Ones guarding the palace is only shown if you attack them, after which you will not get to meet their king, and so won't see his picture.)
27. Star Strider (No. The picture of the Grom with an illusory monster head at section 54 cannot be reached if you fight the GromPol Androids at section 385 who are also pictured.)
28. Phantoms of Fear (No. The picture displaying Istra in his goat-crocodile form is directly at at bad ending.)
34. Stealer of Souls (Not 100% sure, but I think this may actually be a yes. There's a path that takes you through almost every non-lethal encounter in the book, and none of the pictures are of bad endings. Granted, a couple of the pictures can only be triggered by random chance on dice, but still possible.)
43. Keep of the Lich Lord (Surprisingly no, although this one came close: seeing the picture of Elindora means that Kandagor is not with you, which means you won't see the picture of Lady Lotmora and her followers, even though you can still find and kill them.)
45. Spectral Stalkers (Another very close one, the design is such that you can go through almost every encounter...BUT I think the Vaskinds and the Mantir/Colepod encounter are the very rare mutually exclusive ones...and both of these feature a picture.)
49. Siege of Sardath (No. The picture of Fangnir's wagon being destroyed can only be reached if you made the choice that prevents him from giving you his book of which content is featured in another picture.)
55. Deathmoor (No. The picture of the crone selling "lucky heathers" and of the gambling wheel in the Elfbane Bar are on mutually exclusive options.)
58. Revenge of the Vampire (No. The bat spectre and the (were)wolf are on mutually exclusive paths.
59. Curse of the Mummy (No. If you see the picture of Cranno's sabre-tooth tiger, you're on the path to delayed Game Over since you will miss getting an essential item from him after killing his pet.)
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Post by paperexplorer on Sept 24, 2023 5:30:46 GMT
I thought Gates Of Death might be a positive as there are so many possible loops and possible points to restart the adventure? But the fail ending where you're slaughtered by the demonic army (reference 436) has a large illustration, so that's out. Don't know about EOTD, POP and COS - I like the illustrations in Port Of Peril. Gates Of Death also has an orphan illustration and reference somewhere, I believe one with a giant.
I think Gates of Death is possible, so long as you die on reference 436. There wasn't a stipulation you had to succeed, was there? The giant can be reached after leaving Salamonis by fleeing on foot and using oil on the farmers (216 - 246 - 314) |
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Post by a moderator on Sept 24, 2023 12:15:45 GMT
I thought Gates Of Death might be a positive as there are so many possible loops and possible points to restart the adventure? But the fail ending where you're slaughtered by the demonic army (reference 436) has a large illustration, so that's out. Don't know about EOTD, POP and COS - I like the illustrations in Port Of Peril. Gates Of Death also has an orphan illustration and reference somewhere, I believe one with a giant.
I think Gates of Death is possible, so long as you die on reference 436. There wasn't a stipulation you had to succeed, was there? Er... How many books are there where it's possible to see all art in a single successful playthrough? |
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Post by sylas on Sept 24, 2023 21:27:02 GMT
56. Knights of Doom (No. The Beast Man Champion and the Wicker Man are on separate paths)
60. Eye of the Dragon (No. Ian Duckseller and Skeleton King are not on winning path)
Only ones left to be checked are:
18. Rebel Planet
31. Battleblade Warrior
33. Sky Lord
39. Fangs of Fury
46. Tower of Destruction
51. Island of the Undead
62. Howl of the Werewolf
63. Stormslayer
69. Crystal of Storms
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Post by kieran on Sept 24, 2023 21:31:27 GMT
60. Eye of the Dragon (No. Ian Duckseller and Skeleton King are not on winning path) Not sure offhand about the Skeleton King but pretty sure you can beat the book on the Ian path. |
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Post by evilwizard on Sept 25, 2023 1:34:30 GMT
18. Rebel Planet - the Sewers, House of Stolen Goods, People Throwing Blocks at the Arcadians are all on different paths
31. Battleblade Warrior - the Lizardman Priest, Lizardman Woman and Lizardmen siege engines are on different paths
33. Sky Lord - the Scorbeetle and Prefecta are on different paths
39. Fangs of Fury - the Horned Devil and Elf with Wings are on different paths
46. Tower of Destruction - the Ice Demon and Polar Bear are on different paths
51. Island of the Undead - the Swamp Alligator and Mutant Lizard Men are on different paths
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Post by evilwizard on Sept 25, 2023 17:52:39 GMT
62. Howl of the Werewolf - the Headless Highwayman, Water Wyrd and Vampire Hunter are on different paths
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Post by nathanh on Sept 27, 2023 21:48:09 GMT
There are at least 8 pictures in Stormeslayer for the "encounters going from one area to another", and you can't travel that much, so that one's out too.
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Post by nathanh on Sept 30, 2023 9:15:10 GMT
I don't know Crystal of Storms well enough to know offhand if it's possible, but research so far suggests you would need to take advantage of the broken structure of the book to revisit islands: if your home island is Altos, you can't reach the pictures of Flapps and of Galen; if your home island is Cumulus, you can't reach the picture of the Tunneller. Thus, your home island must be Cirrus. But, I think the picture of the lightning dragon thing is only available if you take the bridge from Cumulus to Cirrus, meaning you have to visit Cirrus at least twice.
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Post by Per on Sept 30, 2023 12:46:00 GMT
This is a really neat idea. It reminds me of the tale of Hitokotonushi-no-kami, who proclaimed "evil in a single word, good in a single word, all art in a single playthrough".
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Post by sylas on Sept 30, 2023 15:26:30 GMT
Compiling everyone's research, we only have 6 out of 75 books where you can see all the art in a single successful playthrough, including books which require loops and ambiguous mechanics to do it.
1. Warlock of Firetop Mountain (No. The Giant Spider and Cyclops are on separate routes.)
2. Citadel of Chaos (No. The tentacle and the group by the fire are on separate routes.)
3. Forest of Doom (I think you can. There are no death paragraph illustrations, so you can loop through everything.)
4. Starship Traveller (No. Beaming down to the water planet is not on the winning route.)
5. City of Thieves (No. The Lizardine and Mad Man are on separate routes/streets.)
6. Deathtrap Dungeon (No. The Mirror Demon is not on a winning route.)
7. Island of the Lizard King (No. The Water Elemental and the Bear are on separate routes.)
8. Scorpion Swamp (No the cool hooded figure that blows up Grimslade's tower is not on a winning route.)
9. Caverns of the Snow Witch (No. Redswift's brother, Ash, and the Night Stalker are on separate routes.)
10. House of Hell (No. The Ghoul in the kitchen is not on a winning route.)
11. Talisman of Death (I think you can, with the loops back to the Rift and outside of Greyguilds.)
12. Space Assassin (No. The Deity and the Cephalo Squirrels are on separate routes.)
13. Freeway Fighter (No. The rat man is not on a winning route.)
14. Temple of Terror (No. The desert rider and the Sand Snapper are on separate routes.)
15. The Rings of Kether (No. The pair of 'Blaster' Babbets and the exploding asteroid are on separate routes.)
16. Seas of Blood (No. The war galleys and the Roc are on separate routes.)
17. Appointment with F.E.A.R. (No. The Macro Brain and the presidential assassination are on separate routes.)
18. Rebel Planet - the Sewers, House of Stolen Goods, People Throwing Blocks at the Arcadians are all on different paths
19. Demons of the Deep (No. The picture of the 2 Deep Ones guarding the palace is only shown if you attack them, after which you will not get to meet their king, and so won't see his picture.)
20. Sword of the Samurai (No. Yoro Ginsei and Moichi are on separate routes.)
21. Trial of Champions (No. The Mind Warp Beast is not on a winning route.)
22. Robot Commando: I thought we had a chance with this one, but 312 is a picture of our robot sinking into the swamp
23. Masks of Mayhem (No. The Kraken and the spectres of its victims are on separate routes.)
24. Creature of Havoc (No. Dree is not on the winning route.)
25. Beneath Nightmare Castle (No. The Stone-drop game is not on a winning route.)
26. Crypt of the Sorcerer (No. The Black Fairy is not on a winning route.)
27. Star Strider (No. The picture of the Grom with an illusory monster head at section 54 cannot be reached if you fight the GromPol Androids at section 385 who are also pictured.)
28. Phantoms of Fear (No. The picture displaying Istra in his goat-crocodile form is directly at at bad ending.)
29. Midnight Rogue (No, the picture of the servant sending the dog at you in Brass' house leads inevitably to Game Over)
30. Chasms of Malice (No. The Khuddam and accompanying Orcs, Trolls etc. are not on a winning route.)
31. Battleblade Warrior – the Lizardman Priest, Lizardman Woman and Lizardmen siege engines are on different paths
32. Slaves of the Abyss (No. The eponymous slaves are not on a winning route.)
33. Sky Lord - the Scorbeetle and Prefecta are on different paths
34. Stealer of Souls (You can't see both the stone golem at 274 and the beetle at 365 in the same playthrough.)
35. Daggers of Darkness (No, you can't enter more than 1 maze in a single playthrough, and there's at least 1 picture involving each of the 3 mazes in the book)
36. Armies of Death (No. The Medusa is not on a winning route.)
37. Portal of Evil (No. Dryads not on winning path)
38. Vault of the Vampire (No. Valderesse the Ranger and the dead Werewolf are on separate routes.)
39. Fangs of Fury - the Horned Devil and Elf with Wings are on different paths
40. Dead of Night (No. The sword of Demon-Slaying and the prison of the Netherworld Sorcerers are on separate routes.)
41. Master of Chaos (No. The Chaos Manticore and Captain Grotniss are on separate routes.)
42. Black Vein Prophecy (No. Feior and army not on winning path)
43. Keep of the Lich Lord (Surprisingly no, although this one came close: seeing the picture of Elindora means that Kandagor is not with you, which means you won't see the picture of Lady Lotmora and her followers, even though you can still find and kill them.)
44. Legend of the Shadow Warriors (No. The Orcs of the Black Scorpion and the Nightmare Master are on separate routes.)
45. Spectral Stalkers (Another very close one, the design is such that you can go through almost every encounter...BUT I think the Vaskinds and the Mantir/Colepod encounter are the very rare mutually exclusive ones...and both of these feature a picture.)
46. Tower of Destruction - the Ice Demon and Polar Bear are on different paths
47. The Crimson Tide (No. The monks and the bandits are on separate paths)
48. Moonrunner (No. Fool's Gold mannequin not on winning path neither can you meet the Shocker and go to Penkhull)
49. Siege of Sardath (No. The picture of Fangnir's wagon being destroyed can only be reached if you made the choice that prevents him from giving you his book of which content is featured in another picture.)
50. Return to Firetop Mountain (No. The Inquisitor and the Chaos Slime Beast are on separate routes.)
51. Island of the Undead - the Swamp Alligator and Mutant Lizard Men are on different paths
52. Night Dragon: Bagghurd on 204 and the Snow Wolves on 250 are on separate paths.
53. Spellbreaker (No. The hags on broomsticks and the rats in the burning barn are on separate routes.)
54. Legend of Zagor – Yes I think you can
55. Deathmoor (No. The picture of the crone selling "lucky heathers" and of the gambling wheel in the Elfbane Bar are on mutually exclusive options.)
56. Knights of Doom (No. The Beast Man Champion and the Wicker Man are on separate paths)
57. Magehunter (No. I think a good number of pics are on very separate paths)
58. Revenge of the Vampire (No. The bat spectre and the (were)wolf are on mutually exclusive paths.
59. Curse of the Mummy (No. If you see the picture of Cranno's sabre-tooth tiger, you're on the path to delayed Game Over since you will miss getting an essential item from him after killing his pet.)
60. Eye of the Dragon (No. Ian Duckseller and Skeleton King are not on winning path)
61. Bloodbones (You can't encounter the Giant Chameleon and the Praying Mantis in one winning attempt)
62. Howl of the Werewolf - the Headless Highwayman, Water Wyrd and Vampire Hunter are on different paths
63. Stormslayer - There are at least 8 pictures in Stormeslayer for the "encounters going from one area to another", and you can't travel that much, so that one's out too.
64. Night of the Necromancer - No there are many different illustrations that are not on the same path.
65. Blood of the Zombies (No. If you see the armour and Ian Livingstone's bust (Ooh Matron!) then you have missed a Zombie.)
66. Port of Peril - Yes I think you could see them all on one run though it would be very hard.
67. Gates of Death (the fail ending where you're slaughtered by the demonic army (reference 436) has a large illustration, so that's out.)
68. Assassins of Allansia - No the sleeping man under the tree is the only one not on the true path.
69. Crystal of Storms - you would need to take advantage of the broken structure of the book to revisit islands: if your home island is Altos, you can't reach the pictures of Flapps and of Galen; if your home island is Cumulus, you can't reach the picture of the Tunneller. Thus, your home island must be Cirrus. But, I think the picture of the lightning dragon thing is only available if you take the bridge from Cumulus to Cirrus, meaning you have to visit Cirrus at least twice.
70. Secrets of Salamonis - You can see all illustrations but not on the same run.
71. Shadow of the Giants (Yes you can. No loops required.)
S1. The Shamutanti Hills (No. The Elvins throwing acorns and the Ogre in the mines are on separate routes.)
S2. Kharé: Cityport of Traps (No. The fish in the fountain and the Living Corpse are on separate routes.)
S3. The Seven Serpents (No. The snake charmer and the Baddu Beetle are on separate routes.)
S4. The Crown of Kings (No. If you see Naggamanteh's quarters then you get locked in, which is not on the winning route.)
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Post by paperexplorer on Oct 3, 2023 2:42:10 GMT
Seeing all the images in Giants and Port is kind of an indictment though, isn't it? It just shows there isn't enough divergent paths to explore. At least the others are either open worlds or have loops as the reason.
I'm not sure on Stealer of Souls though, is that confirmed? I might need to revisit
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Post by Gabe Fandango on Oct 3, 2023 8:09:45 GMT
I'm not sure on Stealer of Souls though, is that confirmed? I might need to revisit Yeah, neither am I, like I stated. I didn't actually played it through recently, just flicked through the pictures based on memory. Possibly, I might have remembered wrong. |
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Post by scouserob on Oct 3, 2023 8:47:07 GMT
Seeing all the images in Giants and Port is kind of an indictment though, isn't it? It just shows there isn't enough divergent paths to explore. In Shadow of the Giants’ defence, there are a good few pictures way off the golden path: The Centaurs, the Wraith, the Emerald Dragon, the Golem and the Screaming Demon. But yeah, it is a very forgiving adventure in terms of path choice. |
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kieran
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Post by kieran on Oct 3, 2023 10:53:50 GMT
Stealer of Souls is not possible. You can't see both the stone golem at 274 and the beetle at 365 in the same playthrough.
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