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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 19:47:40 GMT
No. But how many times do I have to play The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, Deathtrap Dungeon, Forest of Doom, House of Hell and City of Thieves?
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sylas
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Post by sylas on May 2, 2015 21:42:36 GMT
i don't see anything wrong in expressing classics in a different format and it's not like its a straight transition like it is with App versions. sure, we all want new FF titles to come out but that doesn't stop something like this from looking awesome.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 15:49:49 GMT
Fair enough.
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Post by paltogue on Sept 1, 2015 10:28:51 GMT
So what's the current state of play with Fighting Fantasy?
- Are we ever going to see any new gamebooks? - Does anyone else (e.g. Arion) have anything in the pipeline (i.e. confirmed they are going to publish)? - Are any new app versions forthcoming (e.g. Sorcery! 4)? - What's happening online other than here? Is there still an 'Official' FF forum, and does it ever have anything on it?
And any other news or views of course!
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Post by kieran on Sept 1, 2015 13:03:20 GMT
1. It's not looking good for new FF gamebooks. Not a peep since Blood of the Zombies (and that was barely FF). I think Eye of the Dragon and Jonathon Green's four new books are now all out of print.
2. There's the Fighting Fantasy Quest card game coming out.
3. Warlock of Firetop Mountain app will be out soon. No word on Sorcery 4 that I can see.
4. The official site is still going and has a news section and blogs but no forum anymore. There are a few blogs about the place though many seem to not really update anymore. The FF yahoo group seems to be mostly non-FF related posts. FF Project's guestbook is intermittently busy but it focuses nearly entirely on the amateur adventures hosted there.
It's not exactly very encouraging.
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Post by paltogue on Sept 1, 2015 13:20:40 GMT
1. It's not looking good for new FF gamebooks. Not a peep since Blood of the Zombies (and that was barely FF). I think Eye of the Dragon and Jonathon Green's four new books are now all out of print. 2. There's the Fighting Fantasy Quest card game coming out. 3. Warlock of Firetop Mountain app will be out soon. No word on Sorcery 4 that I can see. 4. The official site is still going and has a news section and blogs but no forum anymore. There are a few blogs about the place though many seem to not really update anymore. The FF yahoo group seems to be mostly non-FF related posts. FF Project's guestbook is intermittently busy but it focuses nearly entirely on the amateur adventures hosted there. It's not exactly very encouraging. Like, as in not like! Quite depressing really, it looks to me that FF is essentially fizzling out (if it hasn't already). I'm as guilty as anyone of not keeping things lively on the web of course, but it's been a very busy year.
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Post by offm on Sept 1, 2015 14:16:32 GMT
I think Fighting Fantasy would need a change of pace regarding the future, one idea i already propose to Jamie Fry on the Fighting Fantasy facebook group was to republish the books in amazon kindle format with hiperlinks .
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Post by paltogue on Sept 1, 2015 14:37:40 GMT
I think Fighting Fantasy would need a change of pace regarding the future, one idea i already propose to Jamie Fry on the Fighting Fantasy facebook group was to republish the books in amazon kindle format with hiperlinks . I think what FF doesn't need is another republish... There's no reason why there couldn't be new books in some kind of digital format though.
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Post by vagsancho on Sept 1, 2015 17:52:11 GMT
Fighting Fantasy is over. Now everything is just sand and dust. Having said this, I wish however that Jonathan Green would dare himself to undertake one very last Fighting Fantasy Gamebook, based on the Resurrection of Razaak. Even knowing that he is not the author of this ancient book, i would like this last book to be written by Jonathan Green. My thanks to the one who is able to pass him this message.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 18:50:29 GMT
If you would just give amateur authors a try, perhaps THEY are the answer to continue the franchise. With websites coming out like RPG and Lulu (self publishing sites) it's so much easier to do these days. But you'd rather it all be Fighting Fantasy. Ian is busy with other things. Jon has a life outside what he has accomplished in FF. Not sure if he's still writing gamebooks or has switched to novels and stories but I'd not knock down sites like ffproject, be glad it's actually still there.
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Post by sylas on Sept 1, 2015 19:15:49 GMT
Fighting Fantasy is over. Now everything is just sand and dust. Having said this, I wish however that Jonathan Green would dare himself to undertake one very last Fighting Fantasy Gamebook, based on the Resurrection of Razaak. Even knowing that he is not the author of this ancient book, i would like this last book to be written by Jonathan Green. My thanks to the one who is able to pass him this message. anyone know how to turn a Face Palm smiley into a Face Slap smiley? honestly though Vags, we all know you love the R-Man. what i'm surprised with is that you haven't tried to write this fan-based adventure yourself. if you go for it you might even achieve what you always wanted - a Razaak sequel, and you'll have yourself to thank for it. remember, 'I can't' or 'I don't blah blah blah' are poor excuses for not even trying. JUST DO IT! (wish i had a Shia Lebouf smiley here)
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Post by kieran on Sept 1, 2015 20:56:59 GMT
but I'd not knock down sites like ffproject, be glad it's actually still there. Oh sorry, wasn't knocking it at all. I'm a huge fan of the site.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 21:30:38 GMT
I've been misunderstood here. Not blaming anyone. Perhaps I read the posts incorrectly. My bad.
And I doubt we will ever see a sequel to Crypt of the Sorcerer unless someone actually writes one for fun, but it probably won't be by any FF authors, sorry to burst your bubble vag.
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Post by offm on Sept 2, 2015 13:29:42 GMT
I think Fighting Fantasy would need a change of pace regarding the future, one idea i already propose to Jamie Fry on the Fighting Fantasy facebook group was to republish the books in amazon kindle format with hiperlinks . I think what FF doesn't need is another republish... There's no reason why there couldn't be new books in some kind of digital format though. I am curious ,why won´t you agree with a series republishing? I am sure most of the fans would want their favourite books in digital format.
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Post by hynreck on Sept 2, 2015 15:13:32 GMT
I would like some republishing for the folks out there who missed out, but new stuff for us old gang who are craving new blood.
Jonathan Green is busy writing the new gamebook Alice's Nightmare in Wonderland (sorry if any mistakes in the title) so while it is not FF, I think all fans of gamebooks except Vag should give this a try.
There's plenty to be found out there if you love gamebooks, even great amateur stuff, but of course if you stick to FF only it looks like we might be in for a drought.
Then there's that funny post on the Official Site saying they are thinking of a new FF book for the 40th anniversary in 2022 or so... Not sure if it's a joke but it made me laugh in a bitter and sad way.
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Post by offm on Sept 2, 2015 16:10:22 GMT
Then there's that funny post on the Official Site saying they are thinking of a new FF book for the 40th anniversary in 2022 or so... Not sure if it's a joke but it made me laugh in a bitter and sad way. Not very appealing to please the fans really, you see google for example they are always trying to reinvent theirselfs not always with much success but at least they try, the problem with Fighting Fantasy it´s the author´s stopped trying .
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Post by hynreck on Sept 2, 2015 16:57:36 GMT
Well, obviously they have moved on, and did so a while ago. The renaissance was brief, and not that well thought-out, though it did bring some new work to the table. It would have been nice if the momentum have kept, but I can't say I'm surprised about the way things are at the moment. Nowadays it's all kickstarters and apps, so unless Sir Livingstone and Jackson go that route (well, in some capacity they've gone the app route), I'm not sure what else would be viable. Of course apps and kickstarter books are better than the void FF's heading into.
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Post by offm on Sept 2, 2015 17:13:21 GMT
I insist in the idea of republishing some titles , to avoid speculation and the insane prices of some gamebooks , take for example howl of the werewolf.
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Post by paltogue on Sept 2, 2015 17:37:28 GMT
I think what FF doesn't need is another republish... There's no reason why there couldn't be new books in some kind of digital format though. I am curious ,why won´t you agree with a series republishing? I am sure most of the fans would want their favourite books in digital format. I mean, what we don't need is another reissue of Warlock of Firetop Mountain, Forest of Doom, Caverns of the Snow Witch, etc. I.e. the only books other than the new ones which have been reissued at least twice.
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Post by hynreck on Sept 2, 2015 18:39:43 GMT
I agree that they need to give the lesser known books a chance to shine once more.
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Post by nicodemus on Sept 2, 2015 23:09:29 GMT
It really makes me sad to see that the FF world is losing its strenght... There are so many good ideas out there. It would make me happy to see a comeback, new titles. To see once more Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone giving one more effort to write new material. It would be awesome to see a a new fantasy story in Allansia, a return to the roots, but with renewed inspiration. Now they have knowlegde to write a good story. Mentioning the places, the characters (NPC's), new villains or old ones that made us entering the atmosphere. I guess what really matters is a good narrative, with some good elements of gameplay to keep our attention. I'm even in favor of seeing new sci-fi titles. Why not giving the task to J. Green. I think that could be a breakthrough. Experiment, but at the same time going back to the roots to recall our vivid memories of the first fantasy classics. I mean... I would definetly buy new books, for the same reason I love the old ones. I think the root of the problem is the market. There aren't many new fans, new generations don't give a damn to these books... hell, to any books in general, and the cost of printing new tiltes and reprinting old ones is way over the budget allowed. I dunno, I think they should only focus on the fans and to some extend, people that are willing to discover these particular type of books. But that's just me.
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Post by a moderator on Sept 3, 2015 19:03:25 GMT
honestly though Vags, we all know you love the R-Man. what i'm surprised with is that you haven't tried to write this fan-based adventure yourself. if you go for it you might even achieve what you always wanted - a Razaak sequel, and you'll have yourself to thank for it. remember, 'I can't' or 'I don't blah blah blah' are poor excuses for not even trying. JUST DO IT! (wish i had a Shia Lebouf smiley here) What did you do, Ray sylas?
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Post by hynreck on Sept 4, 2015 12:58:44 GMT
The abomination has been unleashed. Razaak is about to morph into the Death Star itself.
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Post by paltogue on Sept 13, 2015 8:47:13 GMT
Someone on the FF Facebook group pointed out that the new deputy leader of the Labour Party in the UK, Tom Watson, is an FF fan, and even appears in Blood of the Zombies! I think they should make it part of their manifesto for the next election that there has to be a new FF book every month. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28865399
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Sept 13, 2015 14:07:13 GMT
Someone on the FF Facebook group pointed out that the new deputy leader of the Labour Party in the UK, Tom Watson, is an FF fan, and even appears in Blood of the Zombies! I think they should make it part of their manifesto for the next election that there has to be a new FF book every month. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28865399That is fantastic. In general this forum isn't the place for revealing political views, but I'm not someone who would welcome the annihilation of the Labour Party - which some people think is a possibility at the moment. It's a great reassurance to know that someone near the top of the tree knows how to calculate their Attack Strength, when to Test their Luck and how to ration their provisions. I don't own Blood of the Zombies, but I've been googling the images. Is he a zombie with a red tie? He's a very broad shouldered man in real life - you'd need a good chainsaw to get through a zombie Tom Watson.
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Post by kieran on Sept 13, 2015 18:48:23 GMT
Don't think the Labour Party is going anywhere, it just might become an actual Labour Party again And yeah think you might be right about Zombie Kong!
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Post by greyarea13 on Sept 15, 2015 3:19:10 GMT
I haven't heard from Graham Bottley of Arion Games since January (and that's after sending him The Titan Herbal in June), so sadly have no idea what's happening on that front. :-(
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 20:20:36 GMT
Should it ever come out please let us know because I'd like to order a copy of that.
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Post by vastariner on Sept 19, 2015 22:03:45 GMT
Missed out big time with Harry Potter. That could have generated interest in swords and magic epics; indeed given JK Rowling's educational commitments it might have been worth approaching her for at least permission for adventures in the Potterworld.
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Post by vagsancho on Sept 19, 2015 22:11:37 GMT
The need for a 94 years old Hero ("I") is big. Thee issue of the salvation of Mankind can ony be achieved by a young 20 or 30 years old is a lie. Because Mankind can not be saved without soul. And Mankind can not be saved. Last breath comes to us all.
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