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Post by tyrion on Aug 8, 2020 8:31:18 GMT
Last round eye of the Dragon and deathmoor were eliminated.
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Post by Wilf on Aug 8, 2020 8:44:19 GMT
Genuinely don't understand how the truly rotten Legend Of Zagor survived that.
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kieran
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Post by kieran on Aug 8, 2020 9:46:27 GMT
Poor auld Deathmoor. Well I'll be voting ND and LoZ again I guess.
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Post by tyrion on Aug 8, 2020 11:22:46 GMT
Genuinely don't understand how the truly rotten Legend Of Zagor survived that. Only just survived. I expect it to go this round. I do like legend of zagor, despite it's difficulty and the fact you have to explore nearly everywhere to win. But then again, we did have deathmoor (rescue the princess? Really by this stage we should be past Disney plots by now) and eye of the dragon (which is like a greatest hits album of dungeons, but the sort of compilation which is the third best song by bands you've barely heard of).
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Post by sylas on Aug 8, 2020 12:37:03 GMT
Genuinely don't understand how the truly rotten Legend Of Zagor survived that. Only just survived. I expect it to go this round. I do like legend of zagor, despite it's difficulty and the fact you have to explore nearly everywhere to win. But then again, we did have deathmoor (rescue the princess? Really by this stage we should be past Disney plots by now) and eye of the dragon (which is like a greatest hits album of dungeons, but the sort of compilation which is the third best song by bands you've barely heard of). Aside from Dungeoneer, FF didn't really have a rescue the princess plot before so the idea of it in a gamebook was still good, just not executed well. It could have been anyone important and the adventure would still be the same. At least the first half is pretty good. Legend of Zagor is enjoyable in places and has some very good encounters but the overuse of the 'hubs' can be exhausting.
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Post by kieran on Aug 9, 2020 8:33:36 GMT
Flip, first Deathmoor, now Magehunter is in trouble. I really must have odd taste since they're the two books I was thinking should go through from this set.
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Post by deadshadowrunner on Aug 9, 2020 10:12:06 GMT
Magehunter is my favourite of these books by a fair distance. It's a breath of fresh air at this point in the series in terms of structure and gameplay, and I can't help but love such an intricately designed book. It feels Fabled Lands-esque with the freedom of choice you're given, but with a clear goal to work towards. And straying onto a false path is still great fun with plenty of things to discover.
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Post by sylas on Aug 9, 2020 10:20:45 GMT
I do like it but it's very easy to get lost on the many false paths but at least even those parts are really interesting. I do like how all the familiar encounters are named differently to remind you that you are not from the same world.
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Post by kieran on Aug 9, 2020 10:56:06 GMT
Magehunter is my favourite of these books by a fair distance. It's a breath of fresh air at this point in the series in terms of structure and gameplay, and I can't help but love such an intricately designed book. It feels Fabled Lands-esque with the freedom of choice you're given, but with a clear goal to work towards. And straying onto a false path is still great fun with plenty of things to discover. It's also great working out how best to apply the treatise of mage hunting in each situation. I would probably have made some of the alternative routes viable options to victory and there are a few continuity bugs (first few tries I was bewildered by a reference to Mencius' "new body") but it's definitely the highlight of the 50s. Probably my fave Paul Mason book too. My third favourite of this set is probably Revenge of the Vampire which is also in trouble 😅
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Post by bloodbeasthandler on Aug 9, 2020 11:32:49 GMT
Magehunter is my favourite of these books by a fair distance. It's a breath of fresh air at this point in the series in terms of structure and gameplay, and I can't help but love such an intricately designed book. It feels Fabled Lands-esque with the freedom of choice you're given, but with a clear goal to work towards. And straying onto a false path is still great fun with plenty of things to discover. So many of the gamebooks, including this one, are a far cry from the 'do you go left or right? .. open the door, slay the goblins... find 2d6 gold pieces... close the door and proceed up the corridor... rinse and repeat' form of gaming/gamebooking which the series could have turned into. This and the later gamebooks were going in the direction I would like to see continue to this day.
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Post by vastariner on Aug 9, 2020 11:37:33 GMT
Zagor is more a grind than an adventure.
RotV has to go for being so broken.
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Post by The Count on Aug 9, 2020 23:57:09 GMT
I like Legend of Zagor as there are four characters leading to replay options - which is also what I dislike about it as you cannot just roll the dice and play as normal. To fit so many encounters into 400 paragraphs however is a work of genius, and every path is incredibly well written.
If you ignore the coin issue in Revenge, it is another great book - and you don't even need the coin issue to be fixed to win so something that was ignored by a lazy cheap publisher shouldn't count against an otherwise well written book.
As I mentioned elsewhere, Magehunter is baffling yet intriguing.
None of those books deserves to go before the badly written Curse of the Mummy with its multiple combat mummies. Nor should anything else be voted out before the blatantly fanfic Hero Hammer inspired Knights of Doom and it's impossible fights (see the cover: Daemon Prince on giant Flesh Hound...)
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