Wildy
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Post by Wildy on Jul 28, 2024 8:34:20 GMT
Okay, I did not expect this at all! That was hell if a roller coaster ride! I was right about one thing at least: Evil minds DO think alike! MUAH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH! Congratulations to you! My original intention for Q10 was in Star Strider, the author making you eat SEAFOOD paella in Madrid, basically highway to food poisoning without a chance to say no or pick another dish. In the end I thought it was too “meta” as would say the youngsters so picked a relatively “safe” thing from the freshest book I just read! Thanks Evil Wizard for organizing, I enjoyed it as always
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Post by CharlesX on Jul 28, 2024 10:29:27 GMT
Note above an important clarification I had originally thought of but for some reason forgot when writing up Q3 & Q5 - a creature or creatures who enslaves you is just as valid an answer as one that physically kills you.
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Post by CharlesX on Jul 29, 2024 7:42:26 GMT
Thank you petch and Wildy for the first two entries in this round. In the spirit of Steve Jackson I will not be giving answers much benefit of the doubt!
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Post by CharlesX on Jul 29, 2024 16:46:32 GMT
Thank you to two more submissions for Unique Answers.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 1, 2024 8:30:11 GMT
Hi
Two more submissions from Kieran and Hallucination means there have been 6 submissions, meaning the round will be going ahead. Thanks everyone who's shown an interest.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 1, 2024 13:08:33 GMT
Clarifying a point Adrius raises:
Q3 Does not require an actual name itself but rather an identification in the text. Q7 is similar in that a mentioning is more important than whether they have a name. I will amend the rules accordingly.
Q8 is similar in that it doesn't require a strictly named object but rather one idenitified in the text. Thank you by the way for Adrius's point as well as submission.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 2, 2024 6:56:34 GMT
Q1 Cite a reference in Creature Of Havoc in which you are spoken to or read untranslated Human.
Q2 One of the great mysteries in Creature Of Havoc is Stittle Woad (actually just a dye) or Eren Durdinath in Elvish. Using only the letters in 'Stittle Woad' (disregarding the space and those quotation marks) make a valid word of three or more letters. This must appear in a recent standard Oxford dictionary of English (no Scrabble Dictionary words that don't tend to actually be used). You do not need to cite the dictionary reference but it should be in English, can be informal but not an abbreviation, and no place names. If in doubt, like a Scrabble game but with an Oxford dictionary not a Scrabble one. You may only use the letters that appear in Stittle Woad once each time they appear in 'Stittle Woad'.
Q3 Some of the most terrifying creatures in Creature Of Havoc are never given Skill and Stamina statistics. Cite a live and named\identified creature or group of creatures in Creature Of Havoc that can personally directly kill you outright (or enslave you), but actually is not given such statistics. A reference is strongly preferable.
Q4 Name a Fighting Fantasy gamebook that, like Creature Of Havoc, does not have the standard 400 references.
Q5 From Creature Of Havoc, name a Steve Jackson-style fight (with reference as well as an enemy's Skill and Stamina statistics) from where you must either die or be enslaved in the next 5 references or in an inevitable loop.
Q6 Cite one of the 'instant bad ending' references in Creature Of Havoc where your adventure abruptly ends, not through Stamina loss but outright then and there, before the author's seemingly preferred ending of reference 460. If the reference is sadistic enough to include the word 'death' as a bonus you may -2 from your score. If the reference has the word 'life', regardless of whether it also includes the word 'death' you may -1 from score (not cumulatively). Otherwise normal scoring rules entirely apply.
Q7 Identify or name an undead or wholly chaotic creature in Creature Of Havoc that is given Skill and Stamina statistics. A reference is fundamental.
Q8 Cite a named\identified object or cluster of objects in a Creature Of Havoc reference that you may pick up or otherwise add to your inventory.
Q9 Name a Fighting Fantasy gamebook that is definitely not credited to Ian Livingstone or US's Steve Jackson. Should you risk a Fighting Fantasy credited to UK Steve Jackson alone there is a -1 bonus, but otherwise normal scoring rules apply.
Q10 Name a Creature Of Havoc reference either with the word "Hobbit" or that you can reach on the same playthrough at or after the endgame reference 329.
Hi Per claims to have spotted ambiguities in the questioning, with the best will in the world these can occur and I will go through his points with the original questions above as a reminder:
Q1 "Untranslated human" can refer to any passage where the code is implemented from Human to English, it doesn't matter if you're spoken some of the text in English (that is, a mix, where you're told to turn to a reference if you know the code). I'm not sure I get the last bit of what he's saying but basically if the entire text is English it wouldn't wash. If he means the Chattermatter then a reference where the Chattermatter speaks English would be translated (so inadmissable), also inadmissable would be one where it speaks non-Human, I would have to see a reference where it speaks with the code just like the others.
Q2 I haven't heard of a declension before but anything that is a main entry like Scrabble, a word with a dash, fantastic name or product name would be inadmissable. Whether a word is archaic or old-fashioned doesn't matter but whether a word is a main entry in an orthodox dictionary does. As this question is an unorthodox one I will break with the general rule an inform via PM if the word is unacceptable. No entry so far has been unacceptable.
Q3 The creature has to be one that is not given stats at any point. If it were a group where one individual is given stats but others aren't the group would have to be cited where they personally directly kill you and the individual would be inadmissable as per the instructions.
Q5 Once the loop is inescapable the loop has began so any fight (with reference point) from and including the very start.
Q6 That is a correct interpretation.
Q7 The words "wholly chaotic" do not have to appear, neither do words such as "chaotic" or "evil". Their actions must appear to be chaotic on a similar scale to D&D (note the Q does not specify Chaotic Evil, so Chaotic Neutral works as well). For example an Orc would be acceptable, an Animal would not. A Human such as a Brigand would not be "wholly chaotic" because they would probably be Neutral Evil, their chaos is not either ruthless or organised enough for the definition. There are indeed ambiguous instances which I would be highly willing to discuss via PM or here if the entire question seems unclear. Several creatures in Creature Of Havoc just seem self-motivated (more Neutral Evil) rather than being seriously concerned about only themselves (Chaotic Neutral) or out to cause chaos (Chaotic Evil). This D&D is a helpful analogy not the be-all and end-all so I will not be persuaded in the case of Humans. You can actually check with me as I would rather respondents weren't marked as wrong on technicalities.
Q9 You're correct in that all FF are technically "SJ & IL" presents but that is not quite my intention. I would accept if another edition can be proven with different authorship but I believe fundamentals like those don't change with editions. As the words "definitely not" and "alone" imply something where UK Steve is credited on the cover and another author is credited around the frontspiece (you're thinking about Secrets Of Salamonis aren't you) would count as an answer but not for the bonus.
Q10 "On the same playthrough" means any reference you could read when you are playing the gamebook legitimately (i.e. that you have the choice to turn to or are told to turn to, as opposed to starting a new game, playing from a different point, or flipping to an illegitimate reference). Not certain what the last sentence means but if he means a ref which fulfils both criteria than that is acceptable. I think if Per is asking a ref by which you reach ref 329 (that is, one you'd only reach before ref 329) then such an answer would be inadmissable as it is outside the criteria. Adrius put it well in a PM reply with the word "downroute" - any reference you could read playing Creature Of Havoc by the rules that is reference 329 or one you could reach after that (w\o cheating).
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 3, 2024 7:20:14 GMT
Hi
Mainly because there have been some rule clarifications I would like to extend the Unique Answers submissions date from Midnight Monday 5th to Midnight Friday 9th.
I've added this to the question post.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 4, 2024 18:57:47 GMT
Thank you for two more submissions from evilwizard and scouserob.
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Post by Peter on Aug 7, 2024 4:36:26 GMT
Thank you evilwizard. I'm sorry I was too stretched to contribute. If I had taken part, I would have chosen Balthus Dire for questions 2 & 3, and probably the full profile of Zagor from The Warlock of Firetop Mountain for question 4. So they would have been failures. For question 5, I would have picked one of the gems from Scorpion Swamp, probably doubling up with somebody. For the evil act in question 7, I was thinking of running the wild-haired prisoner through with your sword in Warlock, but I fear that may not have been sufficiently evil (you react in surprise). Question 8 was easy: yourself, in any of several of the books. That at least would have been a unique answer for me. And for question 10, one of the secret doors in the Maze of Zagor, that sends you backwards into the maze when you are so close to your goal. So if I had been able to join, I would not have challenged the leaders.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 7, 2024 11:44:52 GMT
Thank you to Peter and Peter's Wife for joining others to become the 10th and 11th submissions.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 8, 2024 13:35:05 GMT
Thank you to Per and Vastariner for their submissions.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 9, 2024 10:59:11 GMT
Hi
Friendly reminder the deadline for Creature Of Havoc Tribute Round is in 12 hours time at 12 p.m. tonight. Feel free to send in entries or change your mind before.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 7:05:33 GMT
Creature Of Havoc Tribute Round Results
Q1 Cite a reference in Creature Of Havoc in which you are spoken to or read untranslated Human.
Petch & Trialmaster (441) Sign reads Yellowstone mines this way - 2
Wildy (369) Faces speak to you in the darkness - 1 Gabe Fandango (425) Yellowstones mines sign and Black Elf speaks to you - 1 Hallucination (382) Vapour speaks to you - 1
Adrius (392) Sorceror casts Control Creature spell in Human - 1
Evilwizard (155) Orb speaks to you - 1
Scouserob (160) Knight tells sorceror to cast Control Creature spell - 1
Peter (241) Hannicus says "who is it" when speaking before you face Blood Orcs - 1 Peter's Wife (79) Yellowstone mines this way sign - 1 Per (435) Rhino-man speaks to you, untranslated though you can turn to a ref if you understand - 1 Vastariner (147) Vapour of tongues, mostly untranslated except for the last sentence - 1
Incorrect (2+2=4) Kieran 224 changed to 196 - Either the question was seriously poorly-worded and we all got it wrong or Kieran did. After Kieran's first suggestion 224 seemed grey at best, because the reference to "meaningless whelps" came from a semi-human after you could understand human so was probably animal sounds, I PM'd Kieran to say I wouldn't be giving benefit of the doubt. He then suggested 196, which is ironically even more incorrect because it was entirely in translated Human (despite being magic-users, my understanding the Witches of Dree are Human). The key word was un-translated, which Kieran apparently misunderstood.
There were many references throughout where you were spoken to or read Human, the game was to guess a random-sounding one which by and large most did. As far as the Chattermatter goes there is one (possibly two) reference where it speaks translated Human but one where it speaks untranslated Human along with other tongues such as Trollish, if cited the latter would have been acceptable. There was also the parchment on 337, but you never know with the obvious whether or not they will be picks.
You were all correct the question was asking a reference number not the event itself.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 8:37:13 GMT
Q2 One of the great mysteries in Creature Of Havoc is Stittle Woad (actually just a dye) or Eren Durdinath in Elvish. Using only the letters in 'Stittle Woad' (disregarding the space and those quotation marks) make a valid word of three or more letters. This must appear in a recent standard Oxford dictionary of English (no Scrabble Dictionary words that don't tend to actually be used). You do not need to cite the dictionary reference but it should be in English, can be informal but not an abbreviation, and no place names. If in doubt, like a Scrabble game but with an Oxford dictionary not a Scrabble one. You may only use the letters that appear in Stittle Woad once each time they appear in 'Stittle Woad'. Lode - Petch (1)Test - Wildy (1) Oats (Wild Oats would have been good school humour, but wouldn't have been admissable as Gabe Fandango was the first to point out) - Gabe Fandango (1) Lowest - Trialmaster (1) Staid - Kieran (1) Distal - Hallucination (1) Soiled - Adrius (1) Tit - Evilwizard (1) Wits - Peter's Wife (1) Because the secret passages in the book had her at her wits' end Dottle - Per (1) (Per seemingly took this question rather seriously and had an even more obscure, almost certainly still acceptable, in back-up) Owlet - Vastariner (1) Stolid - Scouserob (1) Lit - Peter (1)
I get the feeling the respondents worked rather harder answering this than I did thinking u the question! Phenomenal though that everyone managed not only to answer correctly but to get a unique answer.
Scores so far:
Wildy Gabe Fandango Scouserob Hallucination Adrius Evilwizard Peter Peter's Wife Per Vastariner - 2
Petch Trialmaster - 3 Kieran - 5
I managed to work out the three word anagram of Stittle Woad DATE LIST TWO but Gabe Fandango's WILD OATS jokingly suggested before mine together with the acknowledgement it was inadmissable left that standing. There was always a very outside chance people's one-word choice would coincide, with some thirteen people playing comparable to winning £10 on lottery, this didn't happen helped largely by most people's effort.
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Post by adrius on Aug 10, 2024 9:38:22 GMT
Lode - Petch (1)Test - Wildy (1) Oats (Wild Oats would have been good school humour, but wouldn't have been admissable as Gabe Fandango was the first to point out) - Gabe Fandango (1) Lowest - Trialmaster (1) Staid - Kieran (1) Distal - Hallucination (1) Soiled - Adrius (1) Lit - Evilwizard (1) Wits - Peter's Wife (1) Because the secret passages in the book had her at her wits' end Dottle - Per (1) (Per seemingly took this question rather seriously and had an even more obscure, almost certainly still acceptable, in back-up) Owlet - Vastariner (1) Stolid - Scouserob (1)
I managed to work out the three word anagram of Stittle Woad DATE LIST TWO but Gabe Fandango's WILD OATS jokingly suggested before mine together with the acknowledgement it was inadmissable left that standing. There was always a very outside chance people's one-word choice would coincide, with some thirteen people playing comparable to winning £10 on lottery, this didn't happen helped largely by most people's effort.
My initial idea was "toilets" but then I thought it might end up being too popular.
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Post by scouserob on Aug 10, 2024 9:42:24 GMT
My teenage self, during the days I was first playing Creature of Havoc, would definitely have entered the first four letters reversed whilst sniggering uncontrollably. I'm more sophisticated now.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 10:29:59 GMT
Q3 Some of the most terrifying creatures in Creature Of Havoc are never given Skill and Stamina statistics. Cite a live and named\identified creature or group of creatures in Creature Of Havoc that can personally directly kill you outright (or enslave you), but actually is not given such statistics. A reference is strongly preferable.
Mud Slime (108) - Petch 1 (The Mud Slime is clearly alive an even given capital letters) Devil's Locks (345) - Per 1 (This is clearly identified as a creature and is pretty obscure, good answer) Zharradan Marr (329) - Peter 1 (Even if its Zharraddan Marr's minions who might turn out to kill you, you're just his slave if you become Commander-In-Chief) Tree Spirits (434) - Trialmaster 1 (Creature is mentioned in the reference)
Slitter (35) - Wildy Hallucination 2
Horde of Hobgoblins (302) - Adrius Gabe Fandango 2
Forest Imps (278) Kieran, Evilwizard Peter's Wife & Scouserob, who gave the reference first (not preferable but acceptable) Plus Vastariner (36) 5
It was a bit of a difficult call but it would seem the Forest Imps on 36 are the exact same ones on reference 278.
There weren't that many answers. I would have accepted the unnamed, unnumbered horde of zombies, Marr's legions on 305, Darramouss, The Weather Mage, The Toadmen, A Witch Of Dree (I think her name's Shanga?), The Sorceror who enslaves you, the Black Elf bowmen. The Shadow Stalker, as well.
Scores after Q3:
Per Peter 3 Wildy Hallucination Gabe Fandango Adrius Petch Trialmaster 4 Vastariner Evilwizard Peter's Wife Scouserob 7 Kieran 10
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 14:38:44 GMT
Q4 Name a Fighting Fantasy gamebook that, like Creature Of Havoc, does not have the standard 400 references.Sorcery! The Seven Serpents - Petch 1 Eye Of The Dragon - Evilwizard 1 Secrets Of Salamonis - Scouserob 1 Appointment with FEAR - Peter 1 Howl Of The Werewolf - Peter's Wife 1 Creature Of Havoc - Per 1 Freeway Fighter - Vastariner 1 Gates Of Death - Wildy Hallucination 2 Night Of The Necromancer - Gabe Fandango Adrius 2 Clash Of The Princes: The Warrior's Way - Trialmaster Kieran 2
You might think either Sorcery! or Clash Of The Princes would be good sources, but with this clash (an unlucky one, since both had similar thinking) there seems evidence either way. Barely clashing at all was pretty fortunate. Per seems to have guessed no one else would go with the obvious one, rightly as it turns out.
Scores after Q4:
Peter Per 4 Petch 5 Wildy Hallucination Gabe Fandango Adrius Trialmaster 6 Evilwizard Scouserob Peter's Wife Vastariner 8
Kieran 12
Will take a break for a bit. I'm pretty excited though - will there be another big pile-up, will Peter and Per continue their run of perfect answers, will someone else like Petch become the eventual winner?
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Post by Per on Aug 10, 2024 18:06:45 GMT
It still wasn't mega triple clear to me whether some things would be allowed, for instance "lowest" and "wits" don't have entries in the 9th edition COD (while "lit" does despite being a conjugation of "light"). Of course other dictionaries may list them and I entirely support allowing them in either case as they certainly be words.
The first word I thought of (not a "backup" answer in the sense usually used here) was "twattle", or "twattles" if plurals are allowed, and as I noted in my submission, it's in the online Oxford dictionary but not the COD (despite being an everyday word etc.).
I was also a little uncertain about the Black Elf bowmen when Black Elves are certainly given stats elsewhere in the book.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 18:26:13 GMT
It still wasn't mega triple clear to me whether some things would be allowed, for instance "lowest" and "wits" don't have entries in the 9th edition COD (while "lit" does despite being a conjugation of "light"). Of course other dictionaries may list them and I entirely support allowing them in either case as they certainly be words. The first word I thought of (not a "backup" answer in the sense usually used here) was "twattle", or "twattles" if plurals are allowed, and as I noted in my submission, it's in the online Oxford dictionary but not the COD (despite being an everyday word etc.). I was also a little uncertain about the Black Elf bowmen when Black Elves are certainly given stats elsewhere in the book. In defence of quizmasters though there's always the option to directly check via PM. If you can make a credible case the wording is ambiguous the worst that can happen is you'll have a difference of opinion. The question doesn't specify either way about whether the entire race shouldn't be given stats or just that particular group. Where the question doesn't specify that can be where uncertainty and different interpretations occur, in solo games as in group games I lean to the view that where it doesn't say you don't have to assume one side. Yes, that's certainly not a view everyone will take; exploiting loopholes and technicalities is also part of the game. Note, for example, the wording is "not given such statistics" rather than "never given such statistics", which I guess from your pov merely muddies the waters further .
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kieran
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Post by kieran on Aug 10, 2024 19:31:56 GMT
Either the question was seriously poorly-worded and we all got it wrong or Kieran did. Always safe to assume in such circumstances Kieran is the kind of eejit who fails to read a question correctly even when given a second chance to do so.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 10, 2024 19:33:24 GMT
Q5 From Creature Of Havoc, name a Steve Jackson-style fight (with reference as well as an enemy's Skill and Stamina statistics) from where you must either die or be enslaved in the next 5 references or in an inevitable loop.
Thugruff 82 - Wildy 1
Chaos Warrior 46 - Hallucination Peter's Wife 2 (The chaos warriors appeared to be different creatures, so had different chaos warrior fight references been chosen, the point-scoring would have been different)
Blood Orc 64 & 452 - Peter Vastariner 2
Master Of Hellfire 143 - Kieran Scouserob 2
Gluevines 4 & 36 - Evilwizard Per 2
Ophidataur 238 - Petch Gabe Fandango Adrius 3
Toad Man 145 Trialmaster Incorrect (3+2=5) This was a very tough call, because the reference that follows 287 would seem to be an instant death - even a Steve Jackson-style one which has the word death written in all caps (at least in my Greenspine edition). The death is avoidable if you have Grog with you (145-287-235, Champskees even puts it on true path), so it isn't one that you must die from, as you do not if you win the fight and have met Grog based on your prior choices.
Scores after Q5
Per Peter 6 Wildy 7
Petch Hallucination 8 Gabe Fandango Adrius 9
Evil Wizard Peter's Wife Vastariner Scouserob 10 Trialmaster 11 Kieran 14
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Post by Peter on Aug 10, 2024 20:38:06 GMT
I thought of going for WOAD for Q2, but worried that it was a bit too clever and someone else would also pick it. For Q4, I decided to risk doubling up with Kieran by choosing Appointment with F.E.A.R., assuming nobody else would. But he apparently second-guessed me and chose something else, leaving me as the beneficiary. Bad luck there, but I'm taking the win.
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Post by Per on Aug 10, 2024 20:42:14 GMT
In defence of quizmasters though there's always the option to directly check via PM. As I did, but then I found some of the clarifications didn't entirely clarify the matter, at which point I just picked some safe stuff. (Of course the moderator also has the option to not provide a clarification, although when they do, I greatly prefer that to be done publicly as you did here.) Note, for example, the wording is "not given such statistics" rather than "never given such statistics", which I guess from your pov merely muddies the waters further :( . The ambiguity I saw was between a set of individuals and the creature type in general, e.g. the question "Are the Slavering Lolcats that savage you in section 13 (ever) given stats" could be answered in two ways: "No, those ones aren't" or "Yes, there's another one you fight in section 174". This doesn't matter for this round's question though since nobody picked the option in question and even more so since it turns out it's actually Dark Elves that shoot you dead while you fight a Black Elf in another part of the book, and I think these are not the same thing in FF. For Q5, my first thought was that by picking any section from the Chaos Warrior or Quimmel Bone sequences you'd have a good chance of avoiding even those thinking the same thing.
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kieran
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Post by kieran on Aug 10, 2024 21:45:53 GMT
I decided to risk doubling up with Kieran by choosing Appointment with F.E.A.R., I did consider AWF and I'm somewhat confused and terrified that you knew that...
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 11, 2024 6:45:09 GMT
In defence of quizmasters though there's always the option to directly check via PM. As I did, but then I found some of the clarifications didn't entirely clarify the matter, at which point I just picked some safe stuff. (Of course the moderator also has the option to not provide a clarification, although when they do, I greatly prefer that to be done publicly as you did here.) Note, for example, the wording is "not given such statistics" rather than "never given such statistics", which I guess from your pov merely muddies the waters further . The ambiguity I saw was between a set of individuals and the creature type in general, e.g. the question "Are the Slavering Lolcats that savage you in section 13 (ever) given stats" could be answered in two ways: "No, those ones aren't" or "Yes, there's another one you fight in section 174". This doesn't matter for this round's question though since nobody picked the option in question and even more so since it turns out it's actually Dark Elves that shoot you dead while you fight a Black Elf in another part of the book, and I think these are not the same thing in FF. For Q5, my first thought was that by picking any section from the Chaos Warrior or Quimmel Bone sequences you'd have a good chance of avoiding even those thinking the same thing. Unless people picked a death via Toadmen - they were seemingly both the same species and even the same group. Q5 Quimmel Bone re-forms so even if you choose different references he's the same enemy, but the Chaos Warriors are different opponents. Not that many answers Q5, could've chosen the Guard, the Armoured Knight, the Black Elf and four or so Chaos Warriors were good bets. I guess as the wording specifies fight rather than creature different references for Quimmel Bone would have been different scores. As it turned out several went for the Ophidatour, instead of the obvious ones.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 11, 2024 8:25:03 GMT
Q6 Cite one of the 'instant bad ending' references in Creature Of Havoc where your adventure abruptly ends, not through Stamina loss but outright then and there, before the author's seemingly preferred ending of reference 460. If the reference is sadistic enough to include the word 'death' as a bonus you may -2 from your score. If the reference has the word 'life', regardless of whether it also includes the word 'death' you may -1 from score (not cumulatively). Otherwise normal scoring rules entirely apply.
14 - Your death is instaneous via a Dark Elf bowman Hallucination -1
83 - You take your last breath before sinking past your nose in mud Gabe Fandango 1
105 - A zombie has a face of death and will give you a slow painful death Evilwizard -1 (Death bonus)
135 The Shadow Stalker brings your death even after you surrender Trialmaster -1 (Death bonus)
434 - The Tree Spirits penalty for trespassing is death! Petch -1 (Death bonus)
47 - YOU are instantly crushed to death by the Weather Mage's creation Wildy Adrius 0 (Death bonus)
418 - Your head cracks hard before an unpleasant death in Bilgewater Peter Vastariner 0 (Death bonus)
336 - YOU become food for the Galleykeep crew after stepping in a loop trap Scouserob 1 286 - Darramouss shows no mercy with his Death Maggots Kieran -1 (Death bonus) 413 - Your death is instantaneous via spike trap Peter's Wife -1 (Death bonus)
338 - Before hitting the Bilgewater river you collide with a boulder and your death is instantaneous Per -1 (Death bonus)
Very few collisions here, most people went for the death references although there were an entire number of references featuring 'life' with or without 'death' which people either avoided or didn't bother with. Perhaps interestingly those who chose a reference without 'death' were all unique answers. I believe the Bilgewater deaths were quite similar, I'm not sure but it might be a Steve Jackson thing where you test an attribute and in one instance you die very very horribly and in the other very slightly less horribly (so what I'm saying is, well done for the near miss).
Scores after Q6
Per 5 Peter 6 Hallucination Petch Wildy 7 Adrius Evilwizard Peter's Wife 9 Gabe Fandango Trialmaster Vastariner 10 Scouserob 11
Kieran 13
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Post by Peter on Aug 11, 2024 8:43:53 GMT
I decided to risk doubling up with Kieran by choosing Appointment with F.E.A.R., I did consider AWF and I'm somewhat confused and terrified that you knew that... You've said before that it's one of your favourites, and I remembered because it was the first time I totally disagreed with you: I have never been a fan of it. Nothing creepier than that.
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Post by CharlesX on Aug 11, 2024 10:06:27 GMT
Q7 Identify or name an undead or wholly chaotic creature in Creature Of Havoc that is given Skill and Stamina statistics. A reference is fundamental.
Master Of Hellfire 143 Evilwizard 1 First Zombie 411 Petch 1 Second zombie 411 Peter 1 Third zombie 411 Scouserob 1 Goblin 341 Per 1 (Per ideally should have specified which of the two goblins, he was fortunate no one else went for the same answer)
Fourth zombie 411 Peter's Wife Vastariner 2
Chaos Warrior 256 Kieran 1 Chaos Warrior 275 Adrius Trialmaster 2
Quimmel Bone 178 Gabe Fandango Hallucination 2
Questionable: Wildy who gave 'ref 411 Donag Haddurag, one of the zombies'. Wildy is new both to the site and Rare Answers but many quizmasters mark as wrong outright when a question seems to ask for something and a reference is provided instead or vice versa i.e. technicalities, others such as Scouserob have been doing that in this round but a single technicality (like forgetting or adding the word 'the' in a gamebook title) isn't enough at least to me to disqualify. From ref 411 it's clear enough Donag Haddurang is indeed one of the zombies but unclear just which, like Per perhaps he should have specified a number (Per may have been operating on the basis of a different interperation of the rules, perhaps because Evilwizard was a little idiosyncratic) without specification he gets the points for all the group. I can't just assume it's the first zombie because that's not certain, and it's unfair on the others. As quizmaster I could either assume Wildy should get all the other zombie points +1, or the single worst +2. Quite possibly former, as based on Per's point below Donag may not have been one of the zombies at all (6).
411 Donag Haddurang (one of the zombies) 6 or 4
Would have accepted the Manic Beast, Devourer, Clawbeast, Thugruff (described in Tales Of Trolltooth Pass as having 'a healthy streak of cruelty'), Orcs. I think the Carrion Bug(s) is an animal in spite of being chaotic in nature, and so inadmissable. As the question specifies a creature not a fight the different Quimmel Bone references equate to the same thing.
Scores after Q7
Per 6 Peter 7 Petch 8 Hallucination 9 Evilwizard 10 Adrius Gabe Fandango Peter's Wife 11 Wildy 11 (or 13)
Vastariner Trialmaster Scouserob 12 Kieran 14
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