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Post by Per on Oct 15, 2024 18:23:53 GMT
As an additional note on the scoring, even if you were to rule all wrong answers other than hallucination's to be correct and unique, it wouldn't come close to altering the outcome, and of course if you also rule his own answer to be correct on Q1, the margin of victory only increases.
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kieran
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Post by kieran on Oct 15, 2024 21:12:18 GMT
Thanks Per and well done to Hallucination.
I seem to do better at these things the less thought I put into them.
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Post by vastariner on Oct 15, 2024 21:41:19 GMT
Slightly melancholic flicking through, it made me wish we had seen a bit more of Hachiman. Probably the last book written before Titan was a thing? Hence its need to be shoehorned and the inability to go back there because you needed some detailed knowledge of Japanese lore. I suppose you could retcon it as being a comparatively peaceful place so not conducive to adventuring.
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Post by hallucination on Oct 15, 2024 22:28:32 GMT
I‘m surprised by the outcome but of course thrilled! Thanks Per for another great round, really enjoyed revisiting Samurai.
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Post by petch on Oct 16, 2024 12:55:27 GMT
Congrats hallucination...it was all going so well for me until being caught up in the biggest pileups of both of the last two questions sealed my fate. Thanks Per for another highly entertaining round, and I think credit is also due for some nice adjudication of what turned out to be the minefield of Q8 (which has also provided a timely reminder to me of how difficult judging these things can be as I have agreed to take the next round!). Plus I think vastariner deserves another mention purely for the Hachimanswers thing. Heh heh.
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Wildy
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Post by Wildy on Oct 16, 2024 14:32:41 GMT
Congratulations to hallucination and many thanks to per to organize and provide us with excellent legal/courtroom drama level entertainment!
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Post by Per on Oct 16, 2024 16:44:36 GMT
It's funny how these single-book rounds require more work than rounds that span the entire series, even though the initial idea was that they should be easier. Another one should not happen until next year, since my next round will be illustrations and we've got at the very least two other people with planned rounds, but I'll accept votes for which book to revisit. The ones I have foremost in mind are Warlock of Firetop Mountain (if everyone isn't sick of it), Scorpion Swamp (even though I personally don't love it), Temple of Terror, and for some reason Fangs of Fury (though everyone may not have it and the nostalgia factor may also be not as strong).
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Post by evilwizard on Oct 16, 2024 20:28:59 GMT
That was a fun round, though going for the first suitable reference spotted didn't work out to be the best strategy It's funny how these single-book rounds require more work than rounds that span the entire series, even though the initial idea was that they should be easier. Another one should not happen until next year, since my next round will be illustrations and we've got at the very least two other people with planned rounds, but I'll accept votes for which book to revisit. The ones I have foremost in mind are Warlock of Firetop Mountain (if everyone isn't sick of it), Scorpion Swamp (even though I personally don't love it), Temple of Terror, and for some reason Fangs of Fury (though everyone may not have it and the nostalgia factor may also be not as strong). I have compiled 8 or 9 questions for a Scorpion Swamp round that I'll have ready by the time everyone else with planned rounds has been
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Post by thealmightymudworm on Oct 17, 2024 16:16:14 GMT
Congrats hallucination and thanks to Per for running the round. I was in last or equal last place for every round of that until the end, so sneaking in a place feels like a win! 8. Identify a way to lose at least 4 Stamina points at once. Being hit extra hard while fighting Ikiru having lost your armour - petch - 1 Being hit extra hard while fighting the Groundhog having lost your armour - Peter - 1 Getting hit by a trident - kieran - 1 Hacking off your own leg - hallucination - 1 Getting badly burnt by flaming brands - thealmightymudworm - 1 Getting impaled on the Kappa's sharpened stakes - evilwizard, Peter's wife - 2 Getting charred by Ikiru's bolts of black energy - sylas, Wildy - 2 Being hit extra hard while fighting an opponent having lost your armour - Gabe Fandango - 3 Correct non-loopholey answers that were not picked include being raked by the Kappa, losing Singing Death, being flamed by the Tatsu, being bolted by Gargantus, and being immolated by the Phoenix. Out of interest: One of the other possibilities I considered for this was when fighting the Dai-Oni without the help of the Ki-Rin he may electrify his club on hitting you causing an extra 2 Stamina points of damage (292/90). I was considering that as an option and then got cold feet in case this was deemed to be 2 Stamina losses in succession (even though they must all happen in the instant the club is in contact with you). Would that have been valid? 7. Identify an item you can obtain and retain in a playthrough following the eastern path (in which your first choice is to turn to paragraph 29), excluding things as in the previous question. Serpent rod - evilwizard, hallucination - 2 Singing Death - petch, sylas - 2 Silk screens - Gabe Fandango, kieran - 2 Map of the Spider Fens - Peter, Peter's wife, thealmightymudworm, vastariner, Wildy - 5 The stuffs people could have had instead include the ruby phoenix, the antler, the silver ewer with Waters of Knowledge, the brass key, and the armour of the Legion of the Seventh Seal. One thing I would not have counted is the trident you can shake at the Kappa while telling them to get off your goddamn lawn, as there's no indication you take it with you, and how many samurai do you see lugging around tridents anyway. It's amazing really. I was 50:50 on whether to go for the map or the key, which you get at the same timie. I'm guessing other people were too and yet we had a five-way clash against an unpicked item.
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Post by Per on Oct 17, 2024 16:27:12 GMT
I have compiled 8 or 9 questions for a Scorpion Swamp round that I'll have ready by the time everyone else with planned rounds has been Excellent, then you (and anyone else who wants to) should go before me so the illustrations rounds get spaced out a bit. Assuming some gaps and 2-week submission periods that should last us to somewhere around the end of the year. (I spent a little time yesterday checking some of the illustrations options I had jotted down back before summer. If I can think of about three images offhand and find 3-5 more flipping through the books, I figure there ought to be enough. But in one or two cases I've started with a feature in some iconic image, assumed there would be a ton more, but then only found one or two, it's weird. Oh, and there's such an uncountable mass of chains, not dozens, but maybe hundreds. I have no idea how we managed to get two matches of 2 and 3 on that question.)
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Post by Per on Oct 17, 2024 16:34:37 GMT
Out of interest: One of the other possibilities I considered for this was when fighting the Dai-Oni without the help of the Ki-Rin he may electrify his club on hitting you causing an extra 2 Stamina points of damage (292/90). I was considering that as an option and then got cold feet in case this was deemed to be 2 Stamina losses in succession (even though they must all happen in the instant the club is in contact with you). Would that have been valid? The way I had read 90, my impression was that they were different successive effects, but if someone had given that answer, I might have given it a closer reading and reconsidered. So tentative yes?
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Post by petch on Oct 18, 2024 11:04:34 GMT
What with all the lovely theming of recent rounds, I did try to think of a snappy theme for an illustrations round. But I couldn't think of one, so this is a no frills image hunt!
Rules:
- Eligible books are Puffin books 1-59 and the four Sorcery! books
- Each book can be used only once in your answers (ie you need to use a different book for every question)
- Penalty for an incorrect answer is the amount of points for the highest clash for that question plus one
- Deadline is 23:59 BST next Friday 25 Oct, giving just over a week to get your answers in. I will do my best to post results over the following weekend.
The quiz - for each question please provide a book title and accompanying reference number for a full page internal illustration depicting somewhere within it:
1. A musical instrument
2. A barkeep
3. A well
4. A creature that is behind bars or in a cage
5. A dinosaur
6. A human, elf or dwarf who is visibly barefoot
7. A decorative (ie inanimate) gargoyle
8. A creature that is made entirely of fire, ice or liquid water
9. A treasure chest
10. A creature carrying a lantern, torch or candle
Good luck!
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Post by Per on Oct 18, 2024 12:19:09 GMT
You managed to almost exactly duplicate one item in my planned set except for an "or other wotzit" I had tacked on at the end, and to exactly duplicate one item in my list of potential backups.
No limit on answers per book?
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Post by petch on Oct 18, 2024 12:37:24 GMT
No limit on answers per book? Oh yeah good shout let's make it more interesting by each answer needing to come from a different book. I will update the rules in the original post to reflect this!
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Wildy
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Post by Wildy on Oct 18, 2024 20:48:14 GMT
One small question, for question 9, does it have to be a TREASURE chest (defined so in accompanying paragrap), or is a chest that looks like a treasure chest enough? Much trauma!
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Post by petch on Oct 18, 2024 21:17:44 GMT
It should be very clear that its purpose is to contain treasure - either from the context of the picture (for example its contents are visible, or it is a picture of a chest in a treasure vault), or it is stated or strongly implied to contain treasure by the accompanying text.
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Post by Peter on Oct 19, 2024 0:40:26 GMT
Well that was a disaster for both of us. Thanks anyway Per, and well done everybody else.
I was thinking of doing The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, but I haven't started yet, so anyone else can feel free. That led me to thinking of a "non-true-path" theme. Maybe that could work.
For now, I'll start looking at pictures.
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Post by Per on Oct 19, 2024 14:07:40 GMT
I was thinking of doing The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, but I haven't started yet, so anyone else can feel free. That led me to thinking of a "non-true-path" theme. Maybe that could work. I think Warlock is one of the best options that hasn't been done or queued up yet. I haven't written anything down for it, so I can always wait and/or hand over the 3-4 questions that immediately suggested themselves, should they be of any help (or maybe a book can even support 20 questions, who knows). Of the rest of the earliest books, it should be possible to do something with Citadel, Starship or City, and for some reason I think Starship might work better, but people may prefer to flip through more popular books even if the questions aren't as distinctive.
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Post by CharlesX on Oct 19, 2024 14:20:05 GMT
I was thinking of doing The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, but I haven't started yet, so anyone else can feel free. That led me to thinking of a "non-true-path" theme. Maybe that could work. I think Warlock is one of the best options that hasn't been done or queued up yet. I haven't written anything down for it, so I can always wait and/or hand over the 3-4 questions that immediately suggested themselves, should they be of any help (or maybe a book can even support 20 questions, who knows). Of the rest of the earliest books, it should be possible to do something with Citadel, Starship or City, and for some reason I think Starship might work better, but people may prefer to flip through more popular books even if the questions aren't as distinctive. I'd like a Warlock round as well, I keep mentioning I'm someone who doesn't have too many FF but I have Warlock (and City Of Thieves btw) and I'd probably participate in a Warlock round. If I'm brave enough I might host round after this one, as well.
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Post by Gabe Fandango on Oct 21, 2024 9:12:04 GMT
Yikes, another round which looks like the deadline might run out before I have the time to check for answers. Are they all getting shorter? 4. A creature that is behind bars or in a cage This is probably a long shot, but would it be acceptable if the creature seems to be "behind bars" when the PC is looking out through those bar at it from inside? I keep mentioning I'm someone who doesn't have too many FF but I have Warlock (and City Of Thieves btw) I had been more than halfway through putting together a Blacksand Editions (based on City of Thieves and Midnight Rogue), before life got too busy. At this rate it might be a while before I will have the time to get it up fully, but that's probably just as well, since there appears to be a fair number of people in the queue to host, so that can wait.
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Post by petch on Oct 21, 2024 13:36:39 GMT
Yikes, another round which looks like the deadline might run out before I have the time to check for answers. Are they all getting shorter? 4. A creature that is behind bars or in a cage This is probably a long shot, but would it be acceptable if the creature seems to be "behind bars" when the PC is looking out through those bar at it from inside? I did only do a week, I think a few rounds earlier just had one week deadlines and most regular players did participate but if that is going to be a struggle am more than happy to extend the deadline - the more players the better with these things I think! For Q4 it would need to be the creature that is incarcerated.
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Post by petch on Oct 21, 2024 14:08:24 GMT
Answers received from Wildy, trialmaster and evilwizard. Thanks all.
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Post by Per on Oct 21, 2024 15:26:47 GMT
If I'm brave enough I might host round after this one, as well. If you wait one more round so that you go around the end of November rather than at the beginning, it will greatly increase the chance that I will be able to use TDoBI for answers. This is probably a long shot, but would it be acceptable if the creature seems to be "behind bars" when the PC is looking out through those bar at it from inside? If this is what I think it is, you could have just submitted and insisted on a literal reading... I had been more than halfway through putting together a Blacksand Editions (based on City of Thieves and Midnight Rogue), before life got too busy. At this rate it might be a while before I will have the time to get it up fully, but that's probably just as well, since there appears to be a fair number of people in the queue to host, so that can wait. It should be no problem for others to leave those books alone for a while.
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Post by CharlesX on Oct 21, 2024 15:37:07 GMT
If I'm brave enough I might host round after this one, as well. If you wait one more round so that you go around the end of November rather than at the beginning, it will greatly increase the chance that I will be able to use TDoBI for answers. Fine with that, going after you.
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Post by Per on Oct 21, 2024 15:56:45 GMT
Fine with that, going after you. I was hoping evilwizard, you, then perhaps me, but we'll see what happens. If anybody wants to go directly after petch they should, if there's a pause between rounds we'll survive, if any one player can't join a round, we'll survive that too.
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Post by CharlesX on Oct 21, 2024 16:52:28 GMT
Fine with that, going after you. I was hoping evilwizard, you, then perhaps me, but we'll see what happens. If anybody wants to go directly after petch they should, if there's a pause between rounds we'll survive, if any one player can't join a round, we'll survive that too. Fine, I plan to go after evilwizard does, or if he doesn't want to I'll go instead.
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Post by Gabe Fandango on Oct 22, 2024 1:43:47 GMT
This is probably a long shot, but would it be acceptable if the creature seems to be "behind bars" when the PC is looking out through those bar at it from inside? If this is what I think it is, you could have just submitted and insisted on a literal reading... I think there are actually multiple illustrations that match my description, so I wanted to see how broad the range can potentially be.
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Post by petch on Oct 24, 2024 11:26:23 GMT
Answers received from Per, vastariner and sylas - thanks all.
With less than 2 days to go to the original deadline and only 6 sets of answers received, to give all of the usual Unique Answers crew a more generous window to have a chance to submit their answers I'm going to extend the deadline for this round to 11:59 BST next Weds 30th. Will try to post results on the Thurs.
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Post by scouserob on Oct 24, 2024 12:38:07 GMT
to give all of the usual Unique Answers crew a more generous window to have a chance to submit their answers I'm going to extend the deadline for this round to 11:59 BST next Weds 30th. Will try to post results on the Thurs. Thanks petch, I'll aim to get off my lazy backside and get searching those illustrations. 😬
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Post by Peter on Oct 25, 2024 4:10:19 GMT
I'm almost all together. I will hand mine in shortly.
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