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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 21:31:17 GMT
Help!
A person told me that he can solve all enigmas in little more than 1 hour...
I ask him the enigma (which i knew only from you) of the zark in space assassin and he answered me right in 5 minutes.
Then i ask him about the chest enigma in vault of the vampire (which i also only discovered from you, and he answered me in 15 minutes...
I ask for help!!!!
Which one is the most difficult enigma in the fighting fantasy books??
And that awful, impossible enigma of the piano in tower of destruction i will not even say him, because he plays music...
But help me, which one is the most horrible enigma of the fighting fantasy books?
Ive heard here that there is a tremendously difficult enigma in phantoms of fear, ive never solved it because i always win the book through another way. But is that the most difficult enigma? Or is there another even more difficult?
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Post by Wilf on Jul 20, 2020 22:20:50 GMT
Which one is the most difficult enigma in the fighting fantasy books?? And on the subject of Clash Of The Princes, I've still yet to hear an even vaguely convincing attempt at working out Electron's riddle... |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 22:26:21 GMT
Which one is the most difficult enigma in the fighting fantasy books?? And on the subject of Clash Of The Princes, I've still yet to hear an even vaguely convincing attempt at working out Electron's riddle... Please, could you tell me which riddle is that? |
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Post by a moderator on Jul 20, 2020 22:48:47 GMT
The riddle at section 253 of The Rings of Kether is pretty obscure.
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 23:04:29 GMT
The riddle at section 253 of The Rings of Kether is pretty obscure. Thank you. I dont recall it. I am gonna see it right now. Another idea for the most horrible riddle of ff books? |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 23:17:06 GMT
I ve seen it now. Yes now i remember. Thank you greenspine. But that's not enough.
I need one much worse. Again, i must say that the horrible riddle of the piano of tower of destruction will not work here because the person in question knows about music.
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Post by peasantscribbler on Jul 20, 2020 23:24:08 GMT
I think that the hardest visual puzzle to solve is the one for section 278 in Siege of Sardath.
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 23:39:25 GMT
I think that the hardest visual puzzle to solve is the one for section 278 in Siege of Sardath. Thank you. I will see it right now. |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 20, 2020 23:48:38 GMT
Good one. But im afraid i need one even worse.
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Post by deadshadowrunner on Jul 21, 2020 6:44:34 GMT
Does anyone else think the vagsancho in this thread doesn't sound like vagsancho?
As for the question, the puzzles in Tower of Destruction are probably in with a shout.
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Post by Wilf on Jul 21, 2020 7:43:04 GMT
And on the subject of Clash Of The Princes, I've still yet to hear an even vaguely convincing attempt at working out Electron's riddle... Please, could you tell me which riddle is that? The Warlock's Way, reference 491:
Electron invites you to touch one of three different spinning bands of electricity - one red, one yellow, and one blue. The riddle is supposed to indicate which coloured band won't kill you:
ESCAPE Strongest I am, but no faster than the rest. Hasten towards me and I disappear. To weaken me retreat.
I've asked this a couple of times before on various FF outposts: how does the riddle point to the correct colour... or indeed help in any way?
For a nearly-forty-six-year-old to be stumped by a puzzle in a kids' book is silly.
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Post by vastariner on Jul 21, 2020 7:45:05 GMT
I think the Puzzler's puzzle in The Crimson Tide is tricky, because, if I recall, it is slightly ambiguous as to whether you include day 1 in it. Also I can't now remember whether it is ambiguous as to the size increase (does it refer to doubling?).
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Post by vastariner on Jul 21, 2020 7:47:21 GMT
Please, could you tell me which riddle is that? The Warlock's Way, reference 491: Electron invites you to touch one of three different spinning bands of electricity - one red, one yellow, and one blue. The riddle is supposed to indicate which coloured band won't kill you: ESCAPE Strongest I am, but no faster than the rest. Hasten towards me and I disappear. To weaken me retreat. I've asked this a couple of times before on various FF outposts: how does the riddle point to the correct colour... or indeed help in any way? For a nearly-forty-six-year-old to be stumped by a puzzle in a kids' book is silly.
Think of the red shift... |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 8:10:34 GMT
The Warlock's Way, reference 491: Electron invites you to touch one of three different spinning bands of electricity - one red, one yellow, and one blue. The riddle is supposed to indicate which coloured band won't kill you: ESCAPE Strongest I am, but no faster than the rest. Hasten towards me and I disappear. To weaken me retreat. I've asked this a couple of times before on various FF outposts: how does the riddle point to the correct colour... or indeed help in any way? For a nearly-forty-six-year-old to be stumped by a puzzle in a kids' book is silly.
Think of the red shift... I still do not understand. I am not an intelligent man. I ask, please, for a clearer explanation. And if possible, for an even more difficult riddle in the fighting fantasy books. |
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Post by philsadler on Jul 21, 2020 8:17:48 GMT
Ask your friend to figure out Pitch and Yaw in Skylord.
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Post by deadshadowrunner on Jul 21, 2020 9:03:27 GMT
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Post by kieran on Jul 21, 2020 9:15:49 GMT
Ive heard here that there is a tremendously difficult enigma in phantoms of fear, ive never solved it because i always win the book through another way It's not really a puzzle/enigma as such. You basically are presented with a bunch of options and have to choose one at random and hope it doesn't kill you. No logic involved, just luck. |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 9:16:37 GMT
thank you, but i will not go there... That is not the kind of puzzle i need... |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 9:21:30 GMT
I remember that tatsu gave us 2 riddles... But for what i recall, they were both easy...
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Post by vastariner on Jul 21, 2020 9:29:14 GMT
Think of the red shift... I still do not understand. I am not an intelligent man. I ask, please, for a clearer explanation. And if possible, for an even more difficult riddle in the fighting fantasy books. It is to do with wavelength and the electromagnetic spectrum.
The red shift is that things look more red the faster they move away from you. So we can work out how far away the most distance galaxies are because they are going away from us so fast that their light is "shifted" to the red.
On the contrary, the Andromeda galaxy is moving towards us. That makes it look a bit more blue. A blueshift.
So, in the riddle, if you move towards, you are making things more blue.
And if you move away, you are making things less blue.
If you move towards fast enough, the waves go beyond the blue into the ultraviolet, so they become invisible to the human eye.
And in electromagnetic terms, the blue end of the spectrum has more energy than the red. But the speed of electromagnetic waves is a constant - the speed of light.
So, blue is strongest, no faster than the rest, will shift to the ultraviolet if you approach fast enough, and gets weaker if you retreat. |
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Post by kieran on Jul 21, 2020 9:30:46 GMT
The equation at the end of Deathmoor is very advanced. I could just about work it out with an A Level in maths, I don't know how anyone in the target age group for the series is meant to have a chance.
Island of the Undead has a puzzle which really requires some creative interpretation. As do two puzzles in Spellbreaker. Unless your mind works the same as the authors', you'll probably never solve them.
On a similar note, Stormslayer has a variant of the Road to St Ives brainteaser except it's written more ambiguously which is annoying.
Probably less a case of ambiguity and more a case of me being thick but I can never solve the "Little Soft Felt Elf" puzzle in Portal of Evil.
And sticking with Peter Darvill-Evans, Spectral Stalkers' map for the maze makes no sense to me and just hurts my head to look at.
I'm not sure if there's any logic involved in Sky Lord's Bric and Brac puzzle. But then I misjudged the yaw/pitch/roll puzzle in that book so maybe this one merits the benefit of the doubt.
Space Assassin's OTTFFSSE puzzle stumped me for years until someone dropped me a massive hint. Oddly I hear many more complaints about the sequence of coloured buttons on the gravity bomb puzzle which I solved first time - probably a case of me having a similar brain to Andrew Chapman than any real puzzle-solving skill on my part.
Other tough ones already mentioned are Tower of Destruction's two puzzles, neither of which I understand and Siege of Sardath's 3d puzzle which even if you work it out it doesn't really look much like a number.
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 9:45:11 GMT
I still do not understand. I am not an intelligent man. I ask, please, for a clearer explanation. And if possible, for an even more difficult riddle in the fighting fantasy books. It is to do with wavelength and the electromagnetic spectrum.
The red shift is that things look more red the faster they move away from you. So we can work out how far away the most distance galaxies are because they are going away from us so fast that their light is "shifted" to the red.
On the contrary, the Andromeda galaxy is moving towards us. That makes it look a bit more blue. A blueshift.
So, in the riddle, if you move towards, you are making things more blue.
And if you move away, you are making things less blue.
If you move towards fast enough, the waves go beyond the blue into the ultraviolet, so they become invisible to the human eye.
And in electromagnetic terms, the blue end of the spectrum has more energy than the red. But the speed of electromagnetic waves is a constant - the speed of light.
So, blue is strongest, no faster than the rest, will shift to the ultraviolet if you approach fast enough, and gets weaker if you retreat. I like it a bit. Never read this book. Is there some draw of it? |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 10:25:16 GMT
Is this difficult?
In my defeat, I win.
In my victory, I lose.
Who am I?
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Post by Wilf on Jul 21, 2020 12:28:47 GMT
Is this difficult? In my defeat, I win. In my victory, I lose. Who am I? You are a man who bet 10,000 gold pieces that Razaak would rise and conquer all Allansia.
If you win the bet, you lose your life to Razaak, and vice versa.
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Post by Wilf on Jul 21, 2020 12:35:26 GMT
It is to do with wavelength and the electromagnetic spectrum.
The red shift is that things look more red the faster they move away from you. So we can work out how far away the most distance galaxies are because they are going away from us so fast that their light is "shifted" to the red.
On the contrary, the Andromeda galaxy is moving towards us. That makes it look a bit more blue. A blueshift.
So, in the riddle, if you move towards, you are making things more blue.
And if you move away, you are making things less blue.
If you move towards fast enough, the waves go beyond the blue into the ultraviolet, so they become invisible to the human eye.
And in electromagnetic terms, the blue end of the spectrum has more energy than the red. But the speed of electromagnetic waves is a constant - the speed of light.
So, blue is strongest, no faster than the rest, will shift to the ultraviolet if you approach fast enough, and gets weaker if you retreat. Sounds convincing, I think. But 45-year-old-Wilf still barely understands it, and hasn't heard of the Red Shift before. Despite receiving the benefits of a private education, 12-year-old-Wilf never stood a chance. I wonder exactly how many 80s kids out there actually figured it out. I'm betting zero. |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 12:43:05 GMT
Is this difficult? In my defeat, I win. In my victory, I lose. Who am I? You are a man who bet 10,000 gold pieces that Razaak would rise and conquer all Allansia.
If you win the bet, you lose your life to Razaak, and vice versa.
That is not the right answer. But i will try to think if that answer also fits. Ok... After thinking, i must say that that is not the right answer, and in my opinion it does not fit (good bet though), because if razaak would kill me for that, that would be a consequence, and this riddle presupposes simultaneity! In my defeat, i win. In my victory, i lose. Who am i? |
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Post by vagsancho on Jul 21, 2020 13:43:25 GMT
But i must confess a flaw in my translation of the original riddle.
It should not say:
In my victory, i lose.
In my defeat, i win.
Who am i?
Because the original riddle is:
My victory is my defeat.
My defeat is my victory.
Who am i?
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Post by The Redlen Reiver on Jul 21, 2020 14:46:48 GMT
Does anyone else think the vagsancho in this thread doesn't sound like vagsancho? Our friend of such odd disposition, Unmasking him is that our mission? Sock puppet or alt? Or a shared account? I tell you, I have my suspicion! |
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Post by Wilf on Jul 21, 2020 15:44:14 GMT
But i must confess a flaw in my translation of the original riddle. It should not say: In my victory, i lose. In my defeat, i win. Who am i? Because the original riddle is: My victory is my defeat. My defeat is my victory. Who am i? You are your own enemy. |
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Post by Wilf on Jul 21, 2020 15:46:02 GMT
But i must confess a flaw in my translation of the original riddle. It should not say: In my victory, i lose. In my defeat, i win. Who am i? Because the original riddle is: My victory is my defeat. My defeat is my victory. Who am i? To lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose...
You are Lord President Borusa of Gallifrey.
- sorry, wrong fandom -
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